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i played gt back on the ps, and never understood why people liked it, it was never even the best back then, jerret &labonte stock car racing was, and it even had damage and licenced cars. but sony pushed gt, so i guess it becam big... forza is good, it is still in early versions though, i hope they bring back road racing, i doubt it will ever be as big as gt, just because of gts fallowing, but it continues to be a good and strong series and in my opion, more real than gt in terms of sim, and fx, for compareable versions.

 

edit, also as has become evident while reading more of these comments forza has no chance here to convince people  because it has to contend with both 3&4 good games people can bring different points from, prolog, and gt5...  if you mix all of those games togeather, and believe everything that is promised in gt5 will arive in it well no duh forza has no chance of being on equal footing,

 

i will say it will be interesting to see forza3 vs gt5 which look to be out around the same time, far more fair comparison, why not wait till then.... oh wait i know because as soon as they are out it will be gt 6 vs forza 4 or 5



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