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gebx, you've gone off the deep end on microsoft ever since your fanboy/doom MS thread.

A price drop is good, there's no other way to slice it. Sales will increase, they always do. I think they are doing this move in August precisely because Sony is releasing the 80gb in August. It effectively looks like only one console got a price cut and the other didn't. I hope they cut the price of the Elite and the hard drives, would be smart.

A pack-in with the core would be great, too, and viva pinata sounds like a smart choice. Sometimes I wish more level headed people ran Microsoft and Sony ;)