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noname2200 said:
BMaker11 said:
Or Mario and Sonic, which was actually made by Sega, but would sell regardless because its a Mario and Sonic

I want you to read this line again. Very carefully. And then come back and tell me why all of us are pointing and laughing at you. I can wait.

BMaker11 said:

...or games like Guitar Hero that sell because they are what they are?

This one too.

BMaker11 said:

When people discuss 3rd party titles on the Wii, they talk about the like of Okami, No More Heroes, and Zack and Wiki

No, actually, they don't. What they mean by "third party games" is "third party games", not "only games BMaker11 likes." It's confusing, I know, but believe it or not there is a distinction!

I'd also add that the games you cherry-picked hurt what I can only assume is your thesis, as those games have all met or exceeded their publishers' expectations. I'm just sayin'.

BMaker11 said:

...not about the TONS and TONS of shovelware that gets ate up by the little kids.

So..."I don't like it, therefore it doesn't count, and it's now officially kiddy"? Are you REALLY resorting to that? Come now, I know you're better than that!

 

#1 If it didn't sell because it simply was a mash up of Mario and Sonic...you know, the old time rivals, then why else did it sell like 5 million? People on this site are the ones that told me that it was because of the characters involved that it sold that much, when I first saw that it sold so well...so those people aren't laughing at me, they're agreeing.

#2 Guitar Hero DOES sell because it's GH....GH3 is considered far WORSE than GH1 and 2 yet it sold MUCH more.

#3 Fine the Wii sells 3rd party games, the likes of Carnival Games, Mario and Sonic, Excite Truck, etc...all sell millions. But then when higher profile games flop on there, do you really think a big game is gonna get released on there? There have been recent articles about how Nintendo is "abandoning the core gamer" and the proof is in the sales. Carnival Games: near 2 million, Okami Wii: less than 300K. How is selling less than even 500K "meeting expectations" when those numbers are considered commercial flops?

#4 Shovelware isn't "I don't like it therefore it doesn't count". It's how the Wii has the lowest average games score between the big 3....why? Because of shovelware.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/02/12/wii-average-game-scores-markedly-lower-than-competition

There are high quality games in the library, but so much shovelware (from 3rd parties, that tend to sell millions eg Sonic and the Secret Rings) throws off the average.....