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Agreed, Kwaad. On average though, they have been more fun. I played Marble Mania today and had something akin to a meditative trance going on. I had the feeling that the marble and the entire Marble Mania world was contained in my wii mote and the TV was just showing me an image of that world. Kinda weird, i know. But what the Wii lacks in graphics it makes up for it in immersion. I know you've heard it all before, Kwaad. Maybe we've all just been having the same argument/discussion for the last year, but we have to make concessions. I concede that the graphics on the Wii are below what even a gamecube title should look like. Can't you concede that Wii games have more of a tendency to be fun (read...make u laugh, smile) than typical console games, regardless of genre?