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You must admit that it been 4 years that Persona 5 is out and it is still not on Switch. Not looking good for a port. But you can always hope. We never know.



Kai_Mao said:
src said:

They are not. Its simply an advantage of having a company with different arms. If Aniplex and Sony Music back away from Persona after Sony PS loses exclusivity then thats a serious consequence for Atlus. Business partnerships are a thing. 

Your smash conclusion is plain wrong. Atlus owns Joker. 

Microsoft is not Sony, and Cuphead is not Persona lol

Persona is a mulltimedia franchise with concerts, album releases and anime. MS is also willing to put all their games on PC while Sony is not. Completely different scenarios. 

So what’s going on with Horizon Zero Dawn then?

So? MS put all their games on PC and like the other poster said, PC is not the same as a competing console.

Literally every single one of your analogies has been wrong.

curl-6 said:
src said:

Microsoft is not Sony, and Cuphead is not Persona lol

Persona is a mulltimedia franchise with concerts, album releases and anime. MS is also willing to put all their games on PC while Sony is not. Completely different scenarios. 

There is no reason why a Switch port would have any impact whatsoever on music deals. Kai Mao is right, they're separate entities, and Sony does not own Persona. Seems to me you simply don't like the idea of a Playstation exclusive appearing on Nintendo and are grasping at straws, to be honest.

LMAO, Aniplex and Sony Music are owned by Sony, who also owns Playstation.

If you want to continue begging for a 4 year old port for years to come instead of actually playing the game thats on you. I'm just showing potential reasons. 



src said:
curl-6 said:

There is no reason why a Switch port would have any impact whatsoever on music deals. Kai Mao is right, they're separate entities, and Sony does not own Persona. Seems to me you simply don't like the idea of a Playstation exclusive appearing on Nintendo and are grasping at straws, to be honest.

LMAO, Aniplex and Sony Music are owned by Sony, who also owns Playstation.

If you want to continue begging for a 4 year old port for years to come instead of actually playing the game thats on you. I'm just showing potential reasons. 

I never begged for anything. JRPGs like Persona are not my cup of tea, and if it did come to Switch I wouldn't even consider buying it.

But the claim that a 4 year old Switch port of Persona 5 would compromise a Sony music deal is just absurd.



curl-6 said:
src said:

LMAO, Aniplex and Sony Music are owned by Sony, who also owns Playstation.

If you want to continue begging for a 4 year old port for years to come instead of actually playing the game thats on you. I'm just showing potential reasons. 

I never begged for anything. JRPGs like Persona are not my cup of tea, and if it did come to Switch I wouldn't even consider buying it.

But the claim that a 4 year old Switch port of Persona 5 would compromise a Sony music deal is just absurd.

To you sure, but to most it's business as usual. Publishers spend money just to get exclusive marketing campaigns for a third party game. There is nothing absurd by a company investing into a game while it is exclusive. 



  1. [PS4] Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers (Limited Edition Included) (Atlus, 02/20/20) – 115,995 (New)
  2. [NSW] Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers (Limited Edition Included) (Atlus, 02/20/20) – 46,415 (New)
  3. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield (The Pokemon Company, 11/15/19) – 18,403 (3,445,788)
  4. [PS4] Katana Kami: A Way of the Samurai Story (Spike Chunsoft, 02/20/20) – 10,654 (New)
  5. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo, 10/18/19) – 9,861 (696,005)
  6. [NSW] Minecraft: Nintendo Switch Edition (Bundle Version Included) (Microsoft, 06/21/18) – 8,687 (1,272,585)
  7. [NSW] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva MegaMix (Sega, 02/13/20) – 8,468 (62,074)
  8. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Nintendo, 12/07/18) – 7,608 (3,569,420)
  9. [NSW] Katana Kami: A Way of the Samurai Story (Spike Chunsoft, 02/20/20) – 7,392 (New)
  10. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo, 04/28/17) – 7,326 (2,781,277)
  11. [PS4] Daymare: 1998 (DMM Games, 02/20/20) – 7,038 (New)
  12. [NSW] Dr. Kawashima’s Brain Training for Nintendo Switch (Nintendo, 12/27/19) – 6,139 (157,687)
  13. [NSW] Super Mario Party (Nintendo, 10/05/18) – 4,497 (1,346,904)
  14. [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Bundle Version Included) (Nintendo, 07/21/17) – 4,140 (3,321,032)
  15. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Limited Edition Included) (Nintendo, 03/03/17) – 3,992 (1,525,092)
  16. [PS4] Granblue Fantasy: Versus (Limited Edition Included) (Cygames, 02/06/20) – 3,901 (102,314)
  17. [NSW] Luigi’s Mansion 3 (Nintendo, 10/31/19) – 3,472 (602,729)
  18. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 (Nintendo, 06/28/19) – 3,387 (859,374)
  19. [PS4] Yakuza: Like a Dragon (Sega, 01/17/20) – 3,327 (238,630)
  20. [PS4] Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot (Bandai Namco, 01/17/20) – 2,909 (145,082)
  21. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (01/11/19) – 2,668 (783,682)
  22. [NSW] Tsuri Spirits Nintendo Switch Version (Bandai Namco, 07/25/19) – 2,579 (395,633)
  23. [NSW] Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games (Sega, 11/01/19) – 2,526 (274,437)
  24. [PS4] Street Fighter V: Champion Edition (Capcom, 02/14/20) – 2,118 (8,705)
  25. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age – Definitive Edition (Limited Edition Included) (Square Enix, 09/27/19) – 2,044 (490,025)
  26. [NSW] Pokemon: Let’s Go, Pikachu! / Let’s Go, Eevee! (Bundle Editions Included) (Nintendo, 11/16/18) – 2,038 (1,703,363)
  27. [NSW] Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum ‘n’ Fun (Bandai Namco, 07/19/18) – 1,882 (447,208)
  28. [NSW] Devil May Cry Triple Pack (Capcom, 02/20/20) – 1,752 (New)
  29. [NSW] Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo, 10/27/17) – 1,742 (2,072,468)
  30. [NSW] Chou no Doku Hana no Kusari: Taishou Tsuya Koi Ibun (Prototype, 02/20/20) – 1,730 (New)

Switch - 23

PS4 - 7

https://www.gematsu.com/2020/02/famitsu-sales-2-17-20-2-23-20



src said:
curl-6 said:

I never begged for anything. JRPGs like Persona are not my cup of tea, and if it did come to Switch I wouldn't even consider buying it.

But the claim that a 4 year old Switch port of Persona 5 would compromise a Sony music deal is just absurd.

To you sure, but to most it's business as usual. Publishers spend money just to get exclusive marketing campaigns for a third party game. There is nothing absurd by a company investing into a game while it is exclusive. 

It is completely absurd to suggest that Sony would feel so threatened by a port of a relatively niche third party game from 4 years ago that their music division would tear up an arrangement.



curl-6 said:
src said:

To you sure, but to most it's business as usual. Publishers spend money just to get exclusive marketing campaigns for a third party game. There is nothing absurd by a company investing into a game while it is exclusive. 

It is completely absurd to suggest that Sony would feel so threatened by a port of a relatively niche third party game from 4 years ago that their music division would tear up an arrangement.

Persona franchise is not niche. P5 has sold 3.2 million and is still growing. That makes it the biggest full third party exclusive on any console. It also sells a lot of mulitmedia. 

Like I said, it isn't. There is a thing called a partnership (with clauses and contracts) but you seem unable to comprehend that, so thats on you. If you keep repeating the same "but its absurd, its absurd" reply you might as well not reply. 



src said:
curl-6 said:

It is completely absurd to suggest that Sony would feel so threatened by a port of a relatively niche third party game from 4 years ago that their music division would tear up an arrangement.

Persona franchise is not niche. P5 has sold 3.2 million and is still growing. That makes it the biggest full third party exclusive on any console. It also sells a lot of mulitmedia. 

Like I said, it isn't. There is a thing called a partnership (with clauses and contracts) but you seem unable to comprehend that, so thats on you. If you keep repeating the same "but its absurd, its absurd" reply you might as well not reply. 

3.2 million is not a big number in today's industry.

And you vastly overestimate how important Persona 5 is to Sony. If they cared as much as you suggest, they would've blocked Persona 5 Scramble from releasing on Switch.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 26 February 2020

curl-6 said:
src said:

Persona franchise is not niche. P5 has sold 3.2 million and is still growing. That makes it the biggest full third party exclusive on any console. It also sells a lot of mulitmedia. 

Like I said, it isn't. There is a thing called a partnership (with clauses and contracts) but you seem unable to comprehend that, so thats on you. If you keep repeating the same "but its absurd, its absurd" reply you might as well not reply. 

3.2 million is not a big number in today's industry.

And you vastly overestimate how important Persona 5 is to Sony. If they cared as much as you suggest, they would've blocked Persona 5 Scramble from releasing on Switch.

Sony themselves have come out and said Persona is important to them LMAO

Its like everything you say is the opposite of whats happening in reality. 

Sony probably doesn't care about spin offs as much. P4A/P4AU was multiplat, PQ/2 was a 3DS exclusive.

Meanwhile P3, P3 FES, P4, P4G, P5 and P5R have all been Playstation exclusive. 



src said:
curl-6 said:

3.2 million is not a big number in today's industry.

And you vastly overestimate how important Persona 5 is to Sony. If they cared as much as you suggest, they would've blocked Persona 5 Scramble from releasing on Switch.

Sony themselves have come out and said Persona is important to them LMAO

Its like everything you say is the opposite of whats happening in reality. 

Sony probably doesn't care about spin offs as much. P4A/P4AU was multiplat, PQ/2 was a 3DS exclusive.

Meanwhile P3, P3 FES, P4, P4G, P5 and P5R have all been Playstation exclusive. 

Company speak is nothing but PR. A platform holder with many 10 million plus selling exclusives isn't going to bother blocking a third party game from 4 years ago that sold 3 million copies from going to a platform that's not even a direct competitor. If Atlus wanted to, they would, and Sony wouldn't give a shit because it doesn't harm or compromise them in any way.