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Carl on 05 November 2009
Kenology said:
Carl2291 said:
Khuutra said:
Carl2291 said:
I think when a company refers to a AAA project they mean it will get outstanding reviews all round and sell well at the same time.

The latter half is true but the former has nothing to do with the development of the game: AAA just means a game htat they put an enormous amount of resources behind and place bets on it making them a lot of money. Wii Music last year was one of Nintendo's AAA games, but it underperformed for sales.

I dunno, i still think reviews count towards the AAA status personally.

There is no real definition for a AAA game, people just have their own stance on what a game needs to consist of to reach that criteria. The majority though, tend to say reviews are what makes a game a AAA game.

Carl, in the future, if you're gonna use terms like "majority" or "minority" or any type of quantifiable term, you should always have data to back it up.  Like, numbers.  You have to produce data to show how you know that the majority of people prefer this/that or take stance x,y, or z.  Because the next question is always gonna be: "How do you know that?"


Just a lil' something my professor in Research Methods told me.

True, what i say doesn't really mean anything without a source.

But meh. Khuutra even agreed with me that the majority, at least here, tends to think that.



                            

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angrypoolman on 05 November 2009

this is bullshit. im done with this topic. im sick of rol's threads beating mine. this is just pathetic.



ps3-sales! on 05 November 2009

I love how Nintendo fanboys are in a completely ignorant about almost all of their games. Nintendo doesn't have the capability of making new ips that sell, so they relie on 20 year old franchises, that don't change the core gameplay even in the slightest bit.



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Carl on 05 November 2009
ps3-sales! said:
I love how Nintendo fanboys are in a completely ignorant about almost all of their games. Nintendo doesn't have the capability of making new ips that sell, so they relie on 20 year old franchises, that don't change the core gameplay even in the slightest bit.

You mean like Wii Sports, or Wii Fit, or Nintendogs... For example?



                            

Khuutra on 05 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Kenology said:

Carl, in the future, if you're gonna use terms like "majority" or "minority" or any type of quantifiable term, you should always have data to back it up.  Like, numbers.  You have to produce data to show how you know that the majority of people prefer this/that or take stance x,y, or z.  Because the next question is always gonna be: "How do you know that?"


Just a lil' something my professor in Research Methods told me.

True, what i say doesn't really mean anything without a source.

But meh. Khuutra even agreed with me that the majority, at least here, tends to think that.

My point is that the "majority" at VGChartz are wrong and saying that Mario Kart Wii and WSR aren't AAA is exclusive beyond reason.



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Carl on 05 November 2009
Khuutra said:
Carl2291 said:
Kenology said:

Carl, in the future, if you're gonna use terms like "majority" or "minority" or any type of quantifiable term, you should always have data to back it up.  Like, numbers.  You have to produce data to show how you know that the majority of people prefer this/that or take stance x,y, or z.  Because the next question is always gonna be: "How do you know that?"


Just a lil' something my professor in Research Methods told me.

True, what i say doesn't really mean anything without a source.

But meh. Khuutra even agreed with me that the majority, at least here, tends to think that.

My point is that the "majority" at VGChartz are wrong and saying that Mario Kart Wii and WSR aren't AAA is exclusive beyond reason.

Did you find out the budget of WSR and MKWii?



                            

Khuutra on 05 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Khuutra said:

My point is that the "majority" at VGChartz are wrong and saying that Mario Kart Wii and WSR aren't AAA is exclusive beyond reason.

Did you find out the budget of WSR and MKWii?

I did not, though "typically with a higher budget" means that it has more to do with sales expectations - and Nintendo expected WSR to sell more than 10 million before the end of the fiscal year alone, so...



Carl on 05 November 2009
Khuutra said:
Carl2291 said:
Khuutra said:

My point is that the "majority" at VGChartz are wrong and saying that Mario Kart Wii and WSR aren't AAA is exclusive beyond reason.

Did you find out the budget of WSR and MKWii?

I did not, though "typically with a higher budget" means that it has more to do with sales expectations - and Nintendo expected WSR to sell more than 10 million before the end of the fiscal year alone, so...

So now any game that sells well is a AAA game?



                            

Khuutra on 05 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Khuutra said:
Carl2291 said:
Khuutra said:

My point is that the "majority" at VGChartz are wrong and saying that Mario Kart Wii and WSR aren't AAA is exclusive beyond reason.

Did you find out the budget of WSR and MKWii?

I did not, though "typically with a higher budget" means that it has more to do with sales expectations - and Nintendo expected WSR to sell more than 10 million before the end of the fiscal year alone, so...

So now any game that sells well is a AAA game?

No: as said before, it has more to do with expectations. Some games that sell well are neither high budget nor made with very high expectations (see: Carnival Games). Corporate sales expectations are a primary indicator, budget is a secondary indicator, but what they're really about it investment. If a game bombs and results in somebody going out of business, you can make a pretty good call that it was AAA.

So, yes. Lair was AAA.



Words Of Wisdom on 05 November 2009
Khuutra said:
Carl2291 said:
I think when a company refers to a AAA project they mean it will get outstanding reviews all round and sell well at the same time.

The latter half is true but the former has nothing to do with the development of the game: AAA just means a game htat they put an enormous amount of resources behind and place bets on it making them a lot of money. Wii Music last year was one of Nintendo's AAA games, but it underperformed for sales.

Would you please link me to a source for that definition?