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That and WRPGs have just been scoring more favorable reviews.
Oblivion, Mass Effect, Fallout 3 and possibly even Dragon Age Origins will all score 90+ on Gamerakings. Hell, even Fable 2 has a 88%.

Tales of Vesperia is the only JRPG to maintain a 80% or higher this gen, while Lost Odyssey and Eternal Sonata came close they are considered just above average from most critics point of view.

I am speaking for the 360 of course. I know VC, Demon Souls and Eternal Sonata re-dux have above a 80% on the PS3.



It's just that simple.

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Can you honestly call Demons Soul a JRPG? If anything it would be classified as a WRPG. As for Valkyria Chronicles its a SRPG which finding real good ones is a rarity so I give it extra props for that. Now if we were talking solely on RPG's than sure but we are talking JRPG here.



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LordMatrix said:

Can you honestly call Demons Soul a JRPG? If anything it would be classified as a WRPG. As for Valkyria Chronicles its a SRPG which finding real good ones is a rarity so I give it extra props for that. Now if we were talking solely on RPG's than sure but we are talking JRPG here.

Well, it was co developed by two Japanese developers...



The Jrpg and wrpg divide isn't 100% clear. There is some blurring between the lines. Early jrpgs are very similar to early wrpgs. Heck Dragon Quest to this day is very similar to early wrpgs aside from the anime artwork. Demon's Souls is basically a Japanese roguelike, which have a lot of similarity to the western roguelikes of the past. Yes Dragon Quest and Demon's Souls are Japanese developed but they aren't drastically different from their older western brothers (Wizardry and western roguelikes) like most jrpgs are in the post-FF4 era. Heck even western developers are blurring the lines. There are rpgs made by western developers that were inspired by jrpgs (look at the RPG Maker community for eg. Or the Pier Solar Sega Mega Drive/Genesis homebrew game that's coming out. The dev team is made up of a Brazilian team leader and a bunch of Europeans but yet it is without a doubt a jrpg in spirit rather than a wrpg. There's also a rpg on the DS. Black Sigil or whatever it's called that was created by a western dev but inspired by snes jrpgs. I wish that western devs wishing to make a jrpg-like would make the effort to create a wrpg/jrpg hybrid to really establish their own identity instead of just ripping off the same cookie cutter 16-bit jrpg template though.



One of the few exclusives to be released on the xbox and it turns out to be rubbish. Time to buy a ps3.



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Darc Requiem said:
LordMatrix said:

Can you honestly call Demons Soul a JRPG? If anything it would be classified as a WRPG. As for Valkyria Chronicles its a SRPG which finding real good ones is a rarity so I give it extra props for that. Now if we were talking solely on RPG's than sure but we are talking JRPG here.

Well, it was co developed by two Japanese developers...

Not to mention that after playing well over 100 hours in it, I think it's hilarious for people to assert that Demon's Souls is a WRPG. It's not.



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It's nothing like a JRPG. Being developed by a japanese developer is not what makes it a JRPG its the gameplay style and game design that helps decide. Sudeki is a JRPG on Xbox that was made by european developers. Its the exact same thing as with Demons Soul except its the opposite.



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reaver_x said:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/magnacarta2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

 

weak story in the game?? ohhhh ouch... yea now im offically turned off. I really hope Dragon Age does better in this department. But nevertheless its not a huge loss for me. With any luck dragon age will give me what i want and theres tons of better RPG's on the way in 2010. What u guys think?? do u agree with the review?? are u dissapointed it didnt score higher??

Wait.....you're worried about a storyline for a game being created by Bioware? LMAO!!!!



LordMatrix said:
It's nothing like a JRPG. Being developed by a japanese developer is not what makes it a JRPG its the gameplay style and game design that helps decide. Sudeki is a JRPG on Xbox that was made by european developers. Its the exact same thing as with Demons Soul except its the opposite.

Okay I got you. A RPG developed in Japan by Japanese developers isn't a JRPG....



S.T.A.G.E. said:
reaver_x said:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/magnacarta2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

 

weak story in the game?? ohhhh ouch... yea now im offically turned off. I really hope Dragon Age does better in this department. But nevertheless its not a huge loss for me. With any luck dragon age will give me what i want and theres tons of better RPG's on the way in 2010. What u guys think?? do u agree with the review?? are u dissapointed it didnt score higher??

Wait.....you're worried about a storyline for a game being created by Bioware? LMAO!!!!


yea i should learn to trust them more. the problem is that Oblivion and Fallout 3 were incredibly dissapointing and did nothing but cause a negative impression towards WRPG's at least for me anyway. Since i grew up with a JRPG experience, ive come to trust them a lot more in terms of giving me wat i want from an RPG where as with WRPG's i always have to approach them with caution. But ur right i should learn to trust Bioware more b/c there the only western RPG developers that seem to do the job right.