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numonex said:
Another redneck making a threat on a US President. Obama is the first ever African-American US President. Too bad for the Obama haters that the US President is heavily protected and he has a million secret agents and security personnel. Obama also has body doubles for his own protection.

You continue to be wrong.

The guy saying this is black, not the usual redneck Obama hater you're speaking.



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amp316 said:
It actually is illegal to say that you are going to kill the president or that he should be killed. This guys in huge trouble.

About Viginia's seal. That dude is totally looking up her dress too. Dang!!!

Not really.

All that will happen is the Secret Service will invsetigate him.  If they believe he's going to comit an act against the presidents life they'll arrest him... if they don't... they won't do anything... unless someone else attempts something against Obama... and then they'll have to prove that the guy was motivated by this guy.

 

At least i'm pretty sure that's how it works.



Kasz216 said:
amp316 said:
It actually is illegal to say that you are going to kill the president or that he should be killed. This guys in huge trouble.

About Viginia's seal. That dude is totally looking up her dress too. Dang!!!

Not really.

All that will happen is the Secret Service will invsetigate him.  If they believe he's going to comit an act against the presidents life they'll arrest him... if they don't... they won't do anything... unless someone else attempts something against Obama... and then they'll have to prove that the guy was motivated by this guy.

 

At least i'm pretty sure that's how it works.

There is definitely a law that doesn't allow you to say that you are going to take the president's life.  That is one instance where American's don't have freedom of speech.  I guess you could say that what this guy said wasn't a direct threat though so it could be open for interpretation.



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amp316 said:
Kasz216 said:
amp316 said:
It actually is illegal to say that you are going to kill the president or that he should be killed. This guys in huge trouble.

About Viginia's seal. That dude is totally looking up her dress too. Dang!!!

Not really.

All that will happen is the Secret Service will invsetigate him.  If they believe he's going to comit an act against the presidents life they'll arrest him... if they don't... they won't do anything... unless someone else attempts something against Obama... and then they'll have to prove that the guy was motivated by this guy.

 

At least i'm pretty sure that's how it works.

There is definitely a law that doesn't allow you to say that you are going to take the president's life.  That is one instance where American's don't have freedom of speech.  I guess you could say that what this guy said wasn't a direct threat though so it could be open for interpretation.

There is a law where you can't say you are going to take the presidents life... but to convict someone you need to prove intent and that they really meant to threaten the Presidents life....

Which is practically impossible to prove unless they're actually planning something, or an act takes place. (And even in the second it's hard to prove.)

The secret service investigates something like 1,500 threats against the president a year.  Almost none of them receive any punishment for said threats.

Any halfway decent lawyer can claim hyperbole or something similar. 

Along the lines of "She borrowed my sweater without asking.  I'm going to kill her!'



@Kasz. Inciting violence is a different matter though. Saying 'If we let the president live, America dies' could definitely be argued as inciting violence.



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numonex said:
Another redneck

You could at least watch the video before commenting.



as a christian this man has no place leading a flock anywhere


no where id Christ teach pain and death for any reason....you sir should not dirty his name by acting on his behalf



 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Virginia

Read up guys. It is the Commonwealth portrayed as an Amazon standing over the defeated Tyrant and proclaiming Libertas and Preseverando (on the reverse). Sic Semper Tyrannis is thus ever to tyrants (dictators basically) and that is not @ Obama but I feel in the mood b/c VA's elections are tomorrow....



Typical extremist overreaction, the guy has been president less than a year, he hasn't even passed health care reform and they already think America is doomed.

Then you have the great congresswoman Virginia Foxx (yes two xxs) who said health care reform is a bigger threat to America than terrorism.

These are the same people who said if Kerry (and Obama) get elected, we would have more terrorist attacks on the US. So I guess they forgot about that since health care reform can hurt the poor little insurance companies. I mean they are just barely making a living by cutting people's health or denying coverage for ridiculous reasons.



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mesoteto said:
as a christian this man has no place leading a flock anywhere


no where id Christ teach pain and death for any reason....you sir should not dirty his name by acting on his behalf

People have used Christianity as an excuse to kill people many times in history: Crusades, WW2, Lebanon, Bosnia, Kosovo and so on...



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