Thats sad to hear, ioi. Though as the time passes I think more people will respect the site.

All the ''doomed'' threads. lol.

I know the numbers of this site, from the start, isnt 100% correct.

I dunno what those people's problem is. I came to this website because it is the only one that attempts to provide near realtime comprehensive worldwide gaming sales data. That is no mean feat and it is a certainty that the numbers will not be 100% accurate.

It is basically impossible for a website to do it with official numbers because, well, I can't see any of the console makers or software publishers being willing to hand over for general publication official sales data in real time. They announce sales data when they are good and ready, when it facilitates their strategic vision, or when they are legally required to. I think the degree of adjustment in HW sales numbers I've seen since I started lurking on this site tends to indicate that VGC's information sources are sufficiently reliable to give people a really good indication of relative performance of both game sales and HW sales (with a few exceptions).

Sure if you're gonna quote VGC numbers on another site suggesting they are accurate down to the last unit then you can legitimately be laughed off the forum, because VGC numbers are only indicative with a degree of uncertainty. When transporting VGC numbers toi any other forum you should always acknowledge a margin of error, like saying "According to VGC, Wii numbers last week were approximately the same as PS3 & 360 combined". Never say things like "VGC shows Wii number was 234,156; PS3 was 113,074; and 360 was 121,082".

Is there anyone suggesting that Wii doesn't have ~49% market share for this gen of consoles? Is there anyone suggesting PS3 isn't approx 8 million units, give or take a few %, behind 360 at this point? Does anyone think MGS4 has sold 10 million units? Does anyone doubt Halo 3 has cracked 10 million? Has anyone shown that Wii Fit hasn't sold >20 million?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with preliminary data released early. Practically every film box office tracker release estimates early and then adjust when the actuals come in from more credible sources. Its common practice in the film industry and nobody ever complains because preliminary data is just a broad look at the market that people get earlier rather then later.

To think this site is less credible because it adjusts when its sales are out of line with the trackers with much larger sample sizes is just ignorant. VGChartz provides early data that shows people a broad version of whats happening in the industry and then gets increasingly accurate as time goes by.

Its not like this site says its as accurate as NPD, so I don't see the problem?

Want free numbers that are generally accurate plus a site with far more useful analytical tools then any other site has? Thats VGChartz. Theres nothing else like it.

I think the main issue is two fold. Firstly people haven't got their heads around exactly what this site is and why its useful. And secondly I think there has been a smear campaign from several sources. But thankfully the perception of the site is changing and the longer this site runs the better the perception is going to get.

The N4G community, which is mainly composed of Sony fanboys, hates VGChartz because the numbers don't favor their console, and many of them believe VGChartz is pro-360. Here are your typical comments from N4G:

"I'll agree that VG Chartz is a crappy source, but given how pro-360 they've been over the past couple of years and they STILL reported this, it should be interesting to see the official numbers."

"VGchartz is not meant to be taken seriously. Probably those are bad projections with an important error attached. VGchartz is known for underestimate PS3 numbers and overestimate xbox's."

They also think our numbers are way off from NPD, but me, bmw69 (don't know who that is here) and crazzyman have proved them wrong. VGChartz have been relatively close to NPD numbers for the past few months. You've done a great job with VGChartz ioi. Keep it up.

^Thats good to hear, usually on bigger sites like that I tend to not register because the crazy amounts of bias and chaos and ignorance.

^ People at other websites love VGC when they get the numbers they want to, otherwise its moslty just a form of damage control from angry fanboys.