But it is not the whole world any more than beret wearing conceptual artist speaks for the whole world when they talk about art ...

THQ shut up and bring me de blob 2.

Oh and last I checked Monopoly prints money is about making money and one of the best selling board games ever and it's fun. Hey so is Wii. So nothing to complain about here.

This.

Last I heard, third parties sold the most software on the Wii.  What is this guy talking about?

Do you ever not troll?  lol!

That made me LOL. Perfectly said.

do you ever get tired of calling everyone who does not think like you and love nintendo with a passion as you a troll? get your facts straight little man, THQ makes crappy games, and its a nightmare for third parties since they have to compete with nintendo.

Ari_Gold you are a blatant troll most of the time, and don't lie, you're input here was solely for an opportunity to bash Nintendo, but that said I do have to agree with most of what you said.

THQ has never been known for making remarkable AAA games and everything they actually put effort into on the Hd systems seems to get less and less attention. Hell they've basically been reduced to spamming every TV channel with adds for UFC 09 and Red Faction Guerilla every commercial break for about a strait month (at god only knows what cost). If only someone had told them Pro-Wrestling/Boxing/Professional Fighting games haven't earned serious coin since the N64/PS1 era or that a generic shooter whose entire sales pitch is a new destructable environment engine is perhaps not the way to capture gamer's imagination. 

As for the Wii, the Wii isn't so much a Nightmare for third party developers as it is a money making puzzle. And while even a three year old could figure out this puzzle, industry professionals either can't or don't want to. Who'da thunk it? Putting bargain-bin efforts on a less than mainstream gaming platform isn't paying off for developers? Didn't see that coming! Hey I know, let's blame Nintendo for not paying for our commercials and buying exclusivity to our titles like MS and Sony do.

I'm sure many developers are convinced this is all the Wii's fault too for not making a console they could just port HD games to and that the Wii's popularity has taken away too many potential consumers to make the expense of HD gaming a viable financial venture. And yes, Nintendo is partially to blame for their role in this whole debacle, their lack of balance in focus and overall shortsightedness in ambition for the Wii has not only relegated them to being outsiders in the industry but helped in polarizing gaming between Hardcore and Casual with no room left for the once "core" norm. Ironically, Nintendo's the only thing in the Gaming Industry not going broke and in contrast is actually thriving like never before (despite their disatisfying performance in the eyes of gamers), so we have to take stock of the situation in placing any blame on them. And while everyone can acost them for not playing ball, inversely, Nintendo could acost the industry for not stepping up to even put a half-hearted effort towards making their console a viable lifeline for rolling with the punches in these tough times.

Nintendo stood their ground and the industry stood its ground, and in the end both lost out in different ways, though financially, Nitnendo is the only one smiling.

But even then, to place blame on the industry itself is only adressing part of the problem for third party developers this generation. The far more integral segment of this equation is this new breed of Gamers.

The entire industry in its haste to make a quick buck has cultivated a consumer that only wants hollywood calibur formulaic hardcore games. No wonder unique and fringe Genres are struggling, you have an industry now where the target consumer is either school kids who think anything with explosions and guns is cool or frat boys that wouldn't even be playing video games today if it wasn't for the original Xbox and prevailing hardcore trends cemented by the 360 and PS3. There's a reason why JRPGs are dying and failing in sales. There's a reason why any game that isn't hardcore, grimdark or gritty is relegated to mediocrity outside of non-gaming circles. Congratulations Gaming Industry, you somehow managed to replace the typical tried and true JRPG grinding, platforming jumping, Japanese Developer loving Core gamer with a Xenophobic, anti-anything Japanese targeted, piracy-prone, Hardocre, Spike TV-watching Subnormer who thinks Halo is the best game ever made and only plays video games so he can shit talk 13 year olds online and frag his brah Skeeter.

How did this get dug up?

With a shovel carved out of bitterness. ;)

That was amazing well written. It also is an exact model that the Blue Ocean Strategy and Innovators Dillema talk about. Everything in there pretty much fits. The writers for Blue Ocean did business historical research since 1880 that's about 120 years worth of data. That's 120 years where this cycle that Onimusha12 is talking about. Not just in games but everything. From food, cars, companies, entertainment. Everything and they ALL END UP IN THE SAME BOAT. A bad decline. Then a new product comes out and it shakes the entire industry forever changing the way we see the industry. The new product is always seen as bad by the elite consumer, but the elite consumer companies always either change or go out of business. We are seeing no difference here and now. I'm sure there are elite consumtomers who will disagree, but there is a 120 years that the only effective strategy is the strategy of change.

There is a ton of insight in your post. I enjoyed reading it very much.