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I really cannot understand why people think GT5 will not sell as much as GT4 ala 10 million. First flagship GT this generation therefore first time we see online etc yet people think it will not do GT4 numbers, it's just crazy thinking. So many games this generation have outsold others from the same franchsie despite having a smaller userbase.

GT5 is going to be huge, better people accepted it now insteat of 5 years time when the damn thing finally releases. -_-

Now let's not compare apples to oranges.........will Forza 3 outsell GT5 in NA?



 

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Every main series Gran Turismo has sold more than nine million copies. Halo hasn't managed to achieve that. In fact the only Halo game to have topped nine million is Halo 3, which I doubt is getting to the numbers of GT3 (somewhere metween 14 and 15 million). Also, so far the first GT game to be released that generation has always been the best-sellin GT of that generation, topping ten million. This generation has shown that GT is still strong: a demo, as 360 fans say, has reached three million. It would be great for a whole game, let alone demo. I say GT is still popular and GT5 has a good chance of topping ten million (but it's not going to happen fast, if at all).

Then we could argue about what "popular" and "more popular" mean... But in this case we'd better use sales I think. Still, it isn't that easy.



Majin-Tenshinhan said:
axumblade said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Since we're on the subject of GT5 Prologue, let me just point out that I think releasing something like that for people to buy is just downright terrible - I've never been a big fan of demos, and it's even worse when you release them, at retail no less, for what, $30?

Also, I honestly think that GT5 Prologue sold so well for two reasons: Partly, well, it's GT. There's no denying that it's a popular franchise. And partly, racing game drought. Does Sony have any traditional racer besides GT5 Prologue, and if so, did it have it at GT5 Prologue's release? And I don't count Motorstorm since that's a terrain racer, and pretty far from the same thing.

If you're going into this expecting GT5 to get sales close to GT4... Well, of course, I can't say for sure, since I can't see the future, but I'm 99,9% certain that you'll be sorely disappointed.

Are you referring to exclusives or otherwise?

Because there is Grid, Ferari Challenge, Formula 1,  and Ridge Racer 7...

 

 

 

Doesn't matter if they're exclusive, as long as a PS3 owner can pick them up. Though, considering I hadn't heard of any of those games besides Grid, I think that serves to support my point a bit. They sure don't sound like very big games.

They weren't Huge. Ridge Racer 7 was one of the better early PS3 games. Formula 1 had a few people on here wanting a PS3 because they thought it looks really good. Ferari Challenge was a flop. Grid was supposed to be really good. Also, there is a huge amount of diverse racing games that keep people happy too. Burnout Paradise, those Need for Speed games that keep selling somehow..., Midnight Club, Motorstorm (1 and 2), Wipeout HD, Pixeljunk Racers,

 



Carl2291 said:
We will have to wait and see for GT5, although it will be hyped massively and i expect a pricecut either before or around the release.

Halo 3 should be at 10 million before GT5 is released.

Anyway... Gran Turismo is WORLD popular... Halo is really popular only in America, and seeing that GT5:Prologue just hit 3 million at retail... its gonna be huge when the real game is released.

My money on this goes to GT.

 

Bolded = perfect.  3 Million at RETAIL.  Realize the game is also available for purchase from PSN, and let's say it sold 1 million copies on PSN (seems legitimate to me, could even be more).  Demo's selling 4 million copies is just flat out amazing.  You could also say, how much Crackdown sell?  VGC has it currently at 1.48 million...and while a hand full of people might have enjoyed the game, I personally know 3 people who bought Crackdown when it came out for the Halo 3 demo.  To me, that's a great way to have a game sell more than it should, and I believe because of the Halo 3 demo, it did.  Without that demo, Crackdown may not have even broke even/made a profit.  I'll go on record for something that can't be proven and say it never would have broke 1 million without that Demo included..  This is purely speculation on my part, but no one here can provide concrete evidence to the contrary.  It's clear both games have massive selling power, but to compare them at this point when GT hasn't had a full iteration come out in as long as it's been or on current gen consoles, theres no way to legitimately compare the 2 at this point.  If you had to, it's a no-brainer - GT wins hands down just because of total sales over the series life span vs total Halo sales over the series lifespan.



Gran tourismo....the sale's for japan only will be huge.....Halo is a overrated american game.... every american bought it because they shoudl...because its american.



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RPG said:
I really cannot understand why people think GT5 will not sell as much as GT4 ala 10 million. First flagship GT this generation therefore first time we see online etc yet people think it will not do GT4 numbers, it's just crazy thinking. So many games this generation have outsold others from the same franchsie despite having a smaller userbase.

GT5 is going to be huge, better people accepted it now insteat of 5 years time when the damn thing finally releases. -_-

Now let's not compare apples to oranges.........will Forza 3 outsell GT5 in NA?

 

 I think people don't doubt GT franchise ability to sell 10 million... more along the lines of ps3s ability to actually have enough userbase to support it. Can you exactly name games this generation that have outsold previous franchise without using COD4, because for every title you would name, I bet you will find 5 titles that did not.

 

Also Forza 3 might outsell... if bundled.



 

mtofu said:
Though it saddens me to say it, I'm leaning towards Halo being more popular and Halo 3 outselling GT 5.

 

Why do you want to boycott capcom?....that's so wierd....

Any way Gran Turismo is Pre Burn Out...and im sure you all remember when Burn Out came and made all other racing games look bad....I honestly dont think that anyone outside of the fanboyism club of sony will care about GT5....it's just that lame...



 



I suspect GT5 will sell enough to keep the GT franchise a fair bit ahead of Halo franchise in terms of total global sales.

The only real threat to GT5 is PS3 install base rather than the potential user base.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

we have to wait for gt5 you know why?
Because what i know the game wil have around 800cars in HD al with car damage.......what more you want for a race game?
its perfect.. as for halo.....hmmm..perfect.....it made people see that a fps can be done on a console... thats all..



I remember someone telling me GT3 was released on a userbase far lower than what GT5 will release on. GT3 was bundled but then again GT5 will be bundles, these big games always have insane attach ratios.

If userbase was everything GT4 should have sold 40 million but did not due to it being the second flagship GT game in the same generation. Prologue has probably already paid for most of GT5's development, GT5 should at most after 1 million sales be pure profit.

Edit - In terms of total sales Halo has 32 million say if every flagship game sold 10 million........GT already has 50 million, Halo will not take that over any time soon but ODST will easilt put it at 40 million.