No, we did not have sushi, yet. That was part of the backburnered symphony-sushi plan that is sidetracked while I try to use my invitation to the music producer's party to gain even more points. So we have not sociallized outside of the club, so your advice is still useable and will be used.

I'm in sort of a same situation. I'm trying to woo a girl, also out of my league but we had one date already and it was awesome. She was happy with it too and we made plans for next week. Then, I got a message she felt down and needed some alone time. She wouldn't answer the phone, or email for two weeks.

Then yesterday I finally got ahold of her on msn. She felt better, and said to call her to make new plans. I'll do that this afternoon so yeah, never lose hope I guess

@ esmorit
The playboy model/students? Good luck to you as well.

Thanks for the " do not lose hope". In fact, I get that hopeful "that might be her" feeling everytime my phone vibrates. I'll go to the club sometime this week and use Starcraft's line.

Good luck with it mate. Keep us updated on what happens.

 Heres a little bit of advice. Take note of how she reacts when she sees you because if shes happy/excited you know its good.

she's always very happy to see me. She always says she's really glad I came that night. It's just a matter of determining if she's interested in me the person or the customer. I also have to make it clear that I'm interested in her the person I've gotten to know while chatting with her and not the dancer.

I'm fairly confident she does like me though.

How often do you go to see her and how did you manage to get a picture with her?

The last 2 weeks has been at a rate of 2 nights per week and I just Adler if I could get a picture. She said yes. It's fully clothed and from the neck up.

This is bothering me, so I have to say it.

She is not out of your league, and if you think that she is, you will never get her.

Your educated, well mannered, successful enough to afford the things you have. The only thing I can derive that makes her "out of your league", would be looks.

Looks are not everything, and if you treat her like they are, she will not want to date you for the same reason you would not want to date her if you knew all she liked about you was your money.

The person that she is matters. If you think the person that she is, is out of your league, then stop trying to date her. She deserves better. If not, then stop acting like she is out of your league.

Just go ask her out, like you would any other woman, and stop looking at her as something above your worth.

I have an extremely hot girlfriend, and she is my girlfriend because of who she is, not because she is hot. If a woman is extremely beautiful and not much else, I am out of her league.

I don't think of her as out of my league. Someone else might have insinuated it, but I can't recall saying it. I feel I would be a great catch for her in a mutually beneficial relationship where we would be looking out fir each other and working tpwarfs common goals.