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Garnett on 30 January 2009
FKNetwork said:
obamanian said:
Seems Gears 2 is getting higher scores in visuals in many sites

Guess there is no more "gap" to speak of, 360 is still ahead, Fable 2 has scored higher in most websites too

The best part for 360, is that UE3.0 is a multiplatform engine that hardly uses any of 360 power, while the KZ2 engine is made with only PS3 in mind

That means the gap 360 has over PS3 could be far bigger than it seems now

Exactly! a lot of reviews are giving Gears 2 higher scores for the graphics and overall score,

I thought Killzone 2 was meant to be getting solid 10's for graphics everywhere because it's the best thing since sliced bread? oh yeah, that's right, it's just sony fanboys spoiling yet another game by over hyping it! well done!

 

The bloke on the IGN video even said the hype may damage the game and some maybe disappointed by the game because of it, he (and the full review) also mention the sub standard textures in the game at times and the stuttering/slowdown when each areas loads up and two weapons in the game has really poor effects,a few reviews have also mentioned problems with the aiming system but not 100% what that is about yet,

Surely a game THIS good shouldn't have any of those issues mentioned above?! but credit where credit is due, the video review did say it is one of the best shooters around (didn't say the best though) and the best graphics he has seen on PS3 (didn't say all consoles, only ps3, listen again if you doubt this)

 

I will still buy this game for my PS3 (about time I used my PS3 lol) but all the over hyping is killing it before it's even out, why don't you just wait for it to go on sale rather than hyping it so much? if the game really is that good surely there is no need to hype it to death?

Miss.Negative Pants :(

 

 



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786_ali on 30 January 2009

if its the best on ps3 then its the best out there coz the previous best on all consoles was MGS4.



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Cobretti2 on 30 January 2009

why does all this matter? gfx dont make a game. gameplay does. I didn't buy my PS3 for gfx reasons but rather for the games coming to it.



 

 

786_ali on 30 January 2009

^^^Well all the reviews say the gameplay rocks as well



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alephnull on 30 January 2009
Squilliam said:
@KGB, Sony has awesome tools for third party developers. They call it a "Xbox 360 Software development kit". Im not being snide, thats straight from the mouth of a developer who works primarily on the PS3 side of multi-platform software. Microsoft's tools are awesome, and they don't need to give them a brand name for fans and fanboys alike, they are the same name they have always been.

I think this pretty clearly illustrates the reason why multiplatform games tend to be so badly programed. To many RAD developers in the games industry.

 



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alephnull on 30 January 2009
Deneidez said:
Groucho said:
So... GeoW2 can improve leaps and bounds, despite being a 2nd iteration of an engine on the 360, but games like KZ2, being a 1st engine iteration and frankly looking better than GeoW2, can't get any better, and thus the 360 has more room to grow?

Come on 360 fans. You can come up with stuff better than that. Like "MS will figure out some genious way to make deferred rendering work on the 360 without blowing the GPU's eDRAM every time a render target is switched! I know, they are working on it right now! They said so!" or somesuch.

Unreal engine isn't made just for X360. Sure it has been optimized a bit, but its still not engine that has been made from scratch for X360. KZ2 engine is and stop calling me 360 fan I haven't even touched X360 ever(I guess, I must be on X360 side or on PS3 side. Theres no alternatives. -.-). Deferred rendering is needed because? Does Crysis use deferred rendering?... uhm... no... Does it look much better than any game on both of these consoles can ever look... yes... And yeah, G-buffer is also way too big for that small eDRAM(With reasonable resolutions.). So its a bit more complicated and I am not sure can it be done with X360 GPU.

@Squilliam

Ok, it does provide more memory for those pixel shader operations, which you can do with it.

Deferred rendering is an algorithmic response to the ps3s architecture; I don't know how much sense it would make on the 360. Groucho isn't making any sense.

However, I feel uneasy when people site Crysis as anything to aspire to. Given the rediculous hardware requirements of that game that engine should have been alot better. If the PS3 had 2 gigs of ram and a Quadro I suspect KZ2 could have done a lot more as well.



FKNetwork on 30 January 2009
Garnett said:
FKNetwork said:
obamanian said:
Seems Gears 2 is getting higher scores in visuals in many sites

Guess there is no more "gap" to speak of, 360 is still ahead, Fable 2 has scored higher in most websites too

The best part for 360, is that UE3.0 is a multiplatform engine that hardly uses any of 360 power, while the KZ2 engine is made with only PS3 in mind

That means the gap 360 has over PS3 could be far bigger than it seems now

Exactly! a lot of reviews are giving Gears 2 higher scores for the graphics and overall score,

I thought Killzone 2 was meant to be getting solid 10's for graphics everywhere because it's the best thing since sliced bread? oh yeah, that's right, it's just sony fanboys spoiling yet another game by over hyping it! well done!

 

The bloke on the IGN video even said the hype may damage the game and some maybe disappointed by the game because of it, he (and the full review) also mention the sub standard textures in the game at times and the stuttering/slowdown when each areas loads up and two weapons in the game has really poor effects,a few reviews have also mentioned problems with the aiming system but not 100% what that is about yet,

Surely a game THIS good shouldn't have any of those issues mentioned above?! but credit where credit is due, the video review did say it is one of the best shooters around (didn't say the best though) and the best graphics he has seen on PS3 (didn't say all consoles, only ps3, listen again if you doubt this)

 

I will still buy this game for my PS3 (about time I used my PS3 lol) but all the over hyping is killing it before it's even out, why don't you just wait for it to go on sale rather than hyping it so much? if the game really is that good surely there is no need to hype it to death?

Miss.Negative Pants :(

 

 

Sorry, didn't mean to sound negative but I really don't think it is always a good thing to over hype a game.

 



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Jereel Hunter on 30 January 2009
cheese_man said:

@Squilliam

Some guy from guerilla said kz2 runs 60% of the ps3's power. The guy who made ps3 said that it can run 120fps (but i think he was exaggerating). And even developers are saying that the 360 is near its limit.

Go have a cry, because I didn't make any of that up.

 

Who? The janitor at their offices? If KZ2 only used 60% of the reasonably available power then they could have added things like split screen, which FPS fans expect. KZ2 is pushing the system, and they had to reduce the available options to squeeze out the graphics they are adding.

 

Would I rather have a better looking Halo 3 without Coop/Forge? No thankyou.



perpride on 30 January 2009

Go PS3! All the unbelievers, including the ones in this thread, will be served in due time.