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Yeah Sony is rather laughable in their condiscending huberous. Though in all fairness if you had crippled your product by making the biggest and best you possibly could without any regard for market trends, economics or the consumer (forcing the console designer to resign/demote much like Gunpei Yokoi after launching the Virtual Boy) then I guess you would want to make the most of what little you have to brag about your product too.



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tabsina said:

Okay, so i just read two pages on this thread, and saw little to no comments about the controls of Bioshock from the people who have played it, I have read that it lacks multiplayer, has grainy textures up close, and has an amazing story and atmosphere.. how does that add up to a 10?

I obviously haven't played it, but can someone explain that to me?

 And LOL at the sony review

"To conclude, let this game cook in the oven just a little bit longer and wait for the superior PS3 version. Cleaned up textures, animations, AI, extra weapons, Home space, standard HDD and Blu-ray will make this flawed game into a perfect gem."

That made me laugh


 I cant speak for the PC version, but it controls very fluidly on the 360. Cycling through the different weapons and plasmids is done via the bumpers, so its all very fast and easy.

This game really doesn't need multiplayer when its singleplayer is as strong as it is. Also, what do you mean by "grainy textures"? Everything I've seen is sharp, so is that what you mean?

Great gameplay + graphics/atmosphere + strong story + open ended combat + great AI + replayability + insane attention to detail = 10

I honestly have to say this is the best next gen game I've played thusfar. Thank god I have a friend who lives near TRU.



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Sporticus said:
Yeah Sony is rather laughable in their condiscending huberous. Though in all fairness if you had crippled your product by making the biggest and best you possibly could without any regard for market trends, economics or the consumer (forcing the console designer to resign/demote much like Gunpei Yokoi after launching the Virtual Boy) then I guess you would want to make the most of what little you have to brag about your product too.

I don't believe that the Sony Defense Force site is associated with Sony.  And of the current consoles, the PS3 isn't the one I'd be most likely to describe as "crippled".  Also:  it's "its condescending hubris". 

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Final-Fan said:
Sporticus said:
Yeah Sony is rather laughable in their condiscending huberous. Though in all fairness if you had crippled your product by making the biggest and best you possibly could without any regard for market trends, economics or the consumer (forcing the console designer to resign/demote much like Gunpei Yokoi after launching the Virtual Boy) then I guess you would want to make the most of what little you have to brag about your product too.

I don't believe that the Sony Defense Force site is associated with Sony.  And of the current consoles, the PS3 isn't the one I'd be most likely to describe as "crippled".  Also:  it's "its condescending hubris". 

I dont care if they are associated, this just proves its a bunch of sony fanboys in control there, they will say what they will to make ps3 look better thats it. And by crippled he means its not selling very well, which its not, and it currently has a lack of huge game titles that it needs.



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Lost tears of Kain said:
Final-Fan said:
Sporticus said:
Yeah Sony is rather laughable in their condiscending huberous. Though in all fairness if you had crippled your product by making the biggest and best you possibly could without any regard for market trends, economics or the consumer (forcing the console designer to resign/demote much like Gunpei Yokoi after launching the Virtual Boy) then I guess you would want to make the most of what little you have to brag about your product too.

I don't believe that the Sony Defense Force site is associated with Sony. And of the current consoles, the PS3 isn't the one I'd be most likely to describe as "crippled". Also: it's "its condescending hubris".

I dont care if they are associated, this just proves its a bunch of sony fanboys in control there, they will say what they will to make ps3 look better thats it. And by crippled he means its not selling very well, which its not, and it currently has a lack of huge game titles that it needs.


I don't care that you don't care, he said "Sony is rather laughable" when Sony had nothing to do with what he is laughing about.

As for what he meant by "crippled", again, he probably did mean that, but a console with a 1/3 chance of nuclear meltdown is at least as "crippled" as a console with few quality games. "But Final-Fan Microsoft is coming out with better hardware!" Yeah, well, Sony is coming out with better games. I will be very happy when both of those things come to pass.

And the PS3 is selling better every week than the 360 (until Halo 3 time obviously) -- the 360 has more than twice the PS3's total because it's been out more than twice as long.

[edit:  I hope you don't think any of this is supposed to be defending the SDF site.  Even for a blatantly partisan website, their bias is taken to hilarious extremes.  It's as if a so-called 'xbot' were to say things like "mario galaxy has graphics like SMB3 and the controls feel like I might as well give the Wiimote to my 2-year-old sister."]



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Final-Fan said:
Lost tears of Kain said:
Final-Fan said:
Sporticus said:
Yeah Sony is rather laughable in their condiscending huberous. Though in all fairness if you had crippled your product by making the biggest and best you possibly could without any regard for market trends, economics or the consumer (forcing the console designer to resign/demote much like Gunpei Yokoi after launching the Virtual Boy) then I guess you would want to make the most of what little you have to brag about your product too.

I don't believe that the Sony Defense Force site is associated with Sony. And of the current consoles, the PS3 isn't the one I'd be most likely to describe as "crippled". Also: it's "its condescending hubris".

I dont care if they are associated, this just proves its a bunch of sony fanboys in control there, they will say what they will to make ps3 look better thats it. And by crippled he means its not selling very well, which its not, and it currently has a lack of huge game titles that it needs.


I don't care that you don't care, he said "Sony is rather laughable" when Sony had nothing to do with what he is laughing about. 

As for what he meant by "crippled", again, he probably did mean that, but a console with a 1/3 chance of nuclear meltdown is at least as "crippled" as a console with few quality games.  "But Final-Fan Microsoft is coming out with better hardware!"  Yeah, well, Sony is coming out with better games.  I will be very happy when both of those things come to pass. 

And the PS3 is selling better every week than the 360 (until Halo 3 time obviously) -- the 360 has more than twice the PS3's total because it's been out more than twice as long.   


Theres the key word Sony IS coming out with better games, when will that be? well i guess i can wait for another year or so, or i can purchase one of the other two consoles with a superior games coming out this fall. And i would certainly rather have a console with GAMES CURRENTLY OUT, even if it has a higher chance of failure. its all about gaming.

Sony is laughable (microsoft also), lets not get started with what they have said, with what all 3 have said some sort of bullshit in the end. I dont want to bash sony( i like sony) i was trying to tell you why he felt that way. i will eventually get one once it has GAMES that are actually worthy enough for a 600 dollar purchase.

 Why are you bring xbox into this, its not selling that well either but that doesnt excuse the fact that ps3 hasnt sold well either.Ps3 might been selling a little better, but dont tell me that its right on track, i mean everyone predicted it would only sell 4 million by fall 2007? But go ahead and tell me thats just enough, its exactly where it should be and it is selling exactly like it should be.

 

you should of just defended sony, while not bashing down on xbox. Now i have to jump in and bash sony to defend xbox. I like them both.



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Lost tears of Kain said:
Final-Fan said:
Lost tears of Kain said:
Final-Fan said:
Sporticus said:
Yeah Sony is rather laughable in their condiscending huberous. Though in all fairness if you had crippled your product by making the biggest and best you possibly could without any regard for market trends, economics or the consumer (forcing the console designer to resign/demote much like Gunpei Yokoi after launching the Virtual Boy) then I guess you would want to make the most of what little you have to brag about your product too.

I don't believe that the Sony Defense Force site is associated with Sony. And of the current consoles, the PS3 isn't the one I'd be most likely to describe as "crippled". Also: it's "its condescending hubris".

I dont care if they are associated, this just proves its a bunch of sony fanboys in control there, they will say what they will to make ps3 look better thats it. And by crippled he means its not selling very well, which its not, and it currently has a lack of huge game titles that it needs.


I don't care that you don't care, he said "Sony is rather laughable" when Sony had nothing to do with what he is laughing about.

As for what he meant by "crippled", again, he probably did mean that, but a console with a 1/3 chance of nuclear meltdown is at least as "crippled" as a console with few quality games. "But Final-Fan Microsoft is coming out with better hardware!" Yeah, well, Sony is coming out with better games. I will be very happy when both of those things come to pass.

And the PS3 is selling better every week than the 360 (until Halo 3 time obviously) -- the 360 has more than twice the PS3's total because it's been out more than twice as long.


Theres the key word Sony IS coming out with better games, when will that be? well i guess i can wait for another year or so, or i can purchase one of the other two consoles with a superior games coming out this fall. And i would certainly rather have a console with GAMES CURRENTLY OUT, even if it has a higher chance of failure. its all about gaming.

Sony is laughable (microsoft also), lets not get started with what they have said, with what all 3 have said some sort of bullshit in the end. I dont want to bash sony( i like sony) i was trying to tell you why he felt that way. i will eventually get one once it has GAMES that are actually worthy enough for a 600 dollar purchase.

Why are you bring xbox into this, its not selling that well either but that doesnt excuse the fact that ps3 hasnt sold well either.Ps3 might been selling a little better, but dont tell me that its right on track, i mean everyone predicted it would only sell 4 million by fall 2007? But go ahead and tell me thats just enough, its exactly where it should be and it is selling exactly like it should be.


Sony certainly has said some ridiculous things, but what started this exchange was a site that made absolutely unbelievably ludicrous claims about Bioshock sucking ass, and it sounded like Sporticus was attributing that drivel to Sony, which is untrue.

Anyway, you definitely caught me fair and square on one score: I did drag the 360 into this without anyone else breathing a word about it. And it's true that the 360's problems don't negate the PS3's problems.

(But please don't exaggerate them: the PS3 is getting a few very respectable games this year, and the big guns are coming out in very early 2008 -- which is next year, not 'a year from now'.)

So fine, the PS3 and 360 are each crippled in their own special ways.



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Final-Fan said:
Lost tears of Kain said:
Final-Fan said:
Lost tears of Kain said:
Final-Fan said:
Sporticus said:
Yeah Sony is rather laughable in their condiscending huberous. Though in all fairness if you had crippled your product by making the biggest and best you possibly could without any regard for market trends, economics or the consumer (forcing the console designer to resign/demote much like Gunpei Yokoi after launching the Virtual Boy) then I guess you would want to make the most of what little you have to brag about your product too.

I don't believe that the Sony Defense Force site is associated with Sony. And of the current consoles, the PS3 isn't the one I'd be most likely to describe as "crippled". Also: it's "its condescending hubris".

I dont care if they are associated, this just proves its a bunch of sony fanboys in control there, they will say what they will to make ps3 look better thats it. And by crippled he means its not selling very well, which its not, and it currently has a lack of huge game titles that it needs.


I don't care that you don't care, he said "Sony is rather laughable" when Sony had nothing to do with what he is laughing about.

As for what he meant by "crippled", again, he probably did mean that, but a console with a 1/3 chance of nuclear meltdown is at least as "crippled" as a console with few quality games. "But Final-Fan Microsoft is coming out with better hardware!" Yeah, well, Sony is coming out with better games. I will be very happy when both of those things come to pass.

And the PS3 is selling better every week than the 360 (until Halo 3 time obviously) -- the 360 has more than twice the PS3's total because it's been out more than twice as long.


Theres the key word Sony IS coming out with better games, when will that be? well i guess i can wait for another year or so, or i can purchase one of the other two consoles with a superior games coming out this fall. And i would certainly rather have a console with GAMES CURRENTLY OUT, even if it has a higher chance of failure. its all about gaming.

Sony is laughable (microsoft also), lets not get started with what they have said, with what all 3 have said some sort of bullshit in the end. I dont want to bash sony( i like sony) i was trying to tell you why he felt that way. i will eventually get one once it has GAMES that are actually worthy enough for a 600 dollar purchase.

Why are you bring xbox into this, its not selling that well either but that doesnt excuse the fact that ps3 hasnt sold well either.Ps3 might been selling a little better, but dont tell me that its right on track, i mean everyone predicted it would only sell 4 million by fall 2007? But go ahead and tell me thats just enough, its exactly where it should be and it is selling exactly like it should be.


Sony certainly has said some ridiculous things, but what started this exchange was a site that made absolutely unbelievably ludicrous claims about Bioshock sucking ass, and it sounded like Sporticus was attributing that drivel to Sony, which is untrue. 

Anyway, you definitely caught me fair and square on one score:  I did drag the 360 into this without anyone else breathing a word about it.  And it's true that the 360's problems don't negate the PS3's problems. 

(But please don't exaggerate them:  the PS3 is getting a few very respectable games this year, and the big guns are coming out in very early 2008 -- which is next year, not "a year from now".)  

So fine, the PS3 and 360 are each crippled in their own special ways.   

yes we can come to a understanding =)

Yes both have problems and both are trying to fix it, and yes ps3 is getting some very respectable games this year, but not the system pushers that xbox is getting (well maybe system pushers to some but not like xbox)

And yes some big guns are coming out in early 2008, and even later in 2008 and im very very excited.

 



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Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.
Sporticus said:
Yeah Sony is rather laughable in their condiscending huberous. Though in all fairness if you had crippled your product by making the biggest and best you possibly could without any regard for market trends, economics or the consumer (forcing the console designer to resign/demote much like Gunpei Yokoi after launching the Virtual Boy) then I guess you would want to make the most of what little you have to brag about your product too.

If you were refering to the Bioshock review from the Sony Defence Force, then I must say that was rather uncalled for. Sony is not the only company that has showed arrongance before. And like somebody said before, SDF is not affiliated with Sony at all. The people who run the site obviously just wanted to get some attention.

P.S. You misspelled "hubris" (huberous?) and condescending (although that was probably a typo). If you're going to use grown up words, at least endeavor to spell them correctly. Or at least come close to the actual spelling if you're trying to flaunt your vocabulary.

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sieanr said:
tabsina said:

Okay, so i just read two pages on this thread, and saw little to no comments about the controls of Bioshock from the people who have played it, I have read that it lacks multiplayer, has grainy textures up close, and has an amazing story and atmosphere.. how does that add up to a 10?

I obviously haven't played it, but can someone explain that to me?

 And LOL at the sony review

"To conclude, let this game cook in the oven just a little bit longer and wait for the superior PS3 version. Cleaned up textures, animations, AI, extra weapons, Home space, standard HDD and Blu-ray will make this flawed game into a perfect gem."

That made me laugh


 I cant speak for the PC version, but it controls very fluidly on the 360. Cycling through the different weapons and plasmids is done via the bumpers, so its all very fast and easy.

This game really doesn't need multiplayer when its singleplayer is as strong as it is. Also, what do you mean by "grainy textures"? Everything I've seen is sharp, so is that what you mean?

Great gameplay + graphics/atmosphere + strong story + open ended combat + great AI + replayability + insane attention to detail = 10

I honestly have to say this is the best next gen game I've played thusfar. Thank god I have a friend who lives near TRU.


As i said, this is all just from what i've read in this thread, i haven't really read anything else on it.. someone did mention earlier though, something to do with textures when you get too close -- i haven't played it, so i can't even back it up with an anecdotal play session