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XiaoMay on 25 November 2008

Of course. It's robbery.



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bardicverse on 25 November 2008

Im pretty much against it. People argue that they want to try the game before they go out and buy it. That's what rentals are for. If you don't want to spend $50, wait 6 months until its down to $20-$30. There is no reason for people to just take for free what people have worked 10 hours a day for 3+ years on.



kcua_626 on 25 November 2008
vlad321 said:
kuraobi said:
I really don't understand why people say they have no choice because they don't have the money. I don't have the money to afford a Ferrari, but that doesn't make stealing one more legitimate. "Steal what you can't buy" is pure communist crap.

 

Except piracy is not stealing per se, this reason has been given many times, but when I steal that ferrari someone else won't buy it. Now if I make a copy, all of that handcrafted goodness is paid for. Especially with a Ferrari I can use the other beaten to death excuse. I'm never buying a Ferrari anyways (even if i could spare the money) , and someone has already paid for it, so might as well get a copy for myself. The craftsman still gets paid for the Ferrari HE built, why should he get paid for the copy if he didn't even bother building it? In my opinion you need a better example because this one just makes it too easy to counter, here's a hint, applying piracy analogies to physical things does not work out in your favor at all.

 

@kcua_626

I've learned how to drive manual in one of the worst cities ever when it comes to driving. I dare say it challenges any South American city.

LOL nothing beats stick shift. Specially when it's traffic and someone bumpers you behind on a very steep slope . I still love stick shift though. Had the opportunity to go automatic twice but stuck with the stick shift. Power on demand :)

 



vlad321 on 25 November 2008
kcua_626 said:
vlad321 said:
kuraobi said:
I really don't understand why people say they have no choice because they don't have the money. I don't have the money to afford a Ferrari, but that doesn't make stealing one more legitimate. "Steal what you can't buy" is pure communist crap.

 

Except piracy is not stealing per se, this reason has been given many times, but when I steal that ferrari someone else won't buy it. Now if I make a copy, all of that handcrafted goodness is paid for. Especially with a Ferrari I can use the other beaten to death excuse. I'm never buying a Ferrari anyways (even if i could spare the money) , and someone has already paid for it, so might as well get a copy for myself. The craftsman still gets paid for the Ferrari HE built, why should he get paid for the copy if he didn't even bother building it? In my opinion you need a better example because this one just makes it too easy to counter, here's a hint, applying piracy analogies to physical things does not work out in your favor at all.

 

@kcua_626

I've learned how to drive manual in one of the worst cities ever when it comes to driving. I dare say it challenges any South American city.

LOL nothing beats stick shift. Specially when it's traffic and someone bumpers you behind on a very steep slope . I still love stick shift though. Had the opportunity to go automatic twice but stuck with the stick shift. Power on demand :)

 

When I want to drive, I want to drive. I don't want some automatic forcing my moves.

 



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

kcua_626 on 25 November 2008
bardicverse said:
Im pretty much against it. People argue that they want to try the game before they go out and buy it. That's what rentals are for. If you don't want to spend $50, wait 6 months until its down to $20-$30. There is no reason for people to just take for free what people have worked 10 hours a day for 3+ years on.

 

Can you spend 20 to 30 bucks for a game if you earn $50 a month working 10 hours a day 6 days a week?



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WiiStation360 on 25 November 2008
kcua_626 said:
bardicverse said:
Im pretty much against it. People argue that they want to try the game before they go out and buy it. That's what rentals are for. If you don't want to spend $50, wait 6 months until its down to $20-$30. There is no reason for people to just take for free what people have worked 10 hours a day for 3+ years on.

 

Can you spend 20 to 30 bucks for a game if you earn $50 a month working 10 hours a day 6 days a week?

How can you afford a $200+ game system,  on $50 a week?

 



vlad321 on 25 November 2008
WiiStation360 said:
kcua_626 said:
bardicverse said:
Im pretty much against it. People argue that they want to try the game before they go out and buy it. That's what rentals are for. If you don't want to spend $50, wait 6 months until its down to $20-$30. There is no reason for people to just take for free what people have worked 10 hours a day for 3+ years on.

 

Can you spend 20 to 30 bucks for a game if you earn $50 a month working 10 hours a day 6 days a week?

How can you afford a $200+ game system,  on $50 a week?

 

 

This is $400 a month speaking, but I got an NES in '95, if that puts it into perspective. People don't have to have current gen consoles or PCs to pirate.



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

kuraobi on 25 November 2008
vlad321 said:
kuraobi said:
I really don't understand why people say they have no choice because they don't have the money. I don't have the money to afford a Ferrari, but that doesn't make stealing one more legitimate. "Steal what you can't buy" is pure communist crap.

 

Except piracy is not stealing per se, this reason has been given many times, but when I steal that ferrari someone else won't buy it. Now if I make a copy, all of that handcrafted goodness is paid for. Especially with a Ferrari I can use the other beaten to death excuse. I'm never buying a Ferrari anyways (even if i could spare the money) , and someone has already paid for it, so might as well get a copy for myself. The craftsman still gets paid for the Ferrari HE built, why should he get paid for the copy if he didn't even bother building it? In my opinion you need a better example because this one just makes it too easy to counter, here's a hint, applying piracy analogies to physical things does not work out in your favor at all.

 

Someone paid for it so everyone else can get a free copy... that's stupid. You don't understand how licensing works. The more people play a game, the more money the developer should get, that's common sense. What you pay for is the work of hundreds of people to create the game you play, you pay them so that they allow you to play the game they made.

So making a copy of a game is allowing you to play the game without paying for the right to do so. You're not directly stealing the developer, but indirectly you are, because if piracy didn't exist, you would have paid for the game like any honest customer.



kuraobi on 25 November 2008

Double Post



kcua_626 on 25 November 2008
WiiStation360 said:
kcua_626 said:
bardicverse said:
Im pretty much against it. People argue that they want to try the game before they go out and buy it. That's what rentals are for. If you don't want to spend $50, wait 6 months until its down to $20-$30. There is no reason for people to just take for free what people have worked 10 hours a day for 3+ years on.

 

Can you spend 20 to 30 bucks for a game if you earn $50 a month working 10 hours a day 6 days a week?

How can you afford a $200+ game system,  on $50 a week?

 

 

That's $50 a month not a week. That's the point. It's hard enough to save up for the console earning $50 a month and after saving up for it, you have to pop out $60 for each game you want to play. No rentals here in our country either.