By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sony Discussion - 8 million PS3s, 2.5 million standalones. Is that all for Blu Ray in 2009?

goddog on 17 November 2008
FinalEvangelion said:

 

This is a good graph on adoption of various technologies in the past I found on Blu-ray forums / AVS.  As you can see, these technologies aren't accepted over night and are often met with alot of resistance in the first years.  BD has already surpassed LD in two years what LD did in 20 years.

if you believe these charts dvd, only has a 40% market penetration right now

who did the research on these?  does it include gaming stations? how about computers that play dvds? 

also the B&W tv chart is waaaaaay off. B&W tv was available in the late 1920s, and color as early as 47. 

 



come play minecraft @  mcg.hansrotech.com

minecraft name: hansrotec

XBL name: Goddog

Around the Network
goddog on 17 November 2008
mibuokami said:
Is that US only? Because everyone's being saying that its adoption rate is higher than DVD....

 

for the first  year of adoption rate yes, after that it has been much slower, i think in larger part due to computer industry not pushing it. 



come play minecraft @  mcg.hansrotech.com

minecraft name: hansrotec

XBL name: Goddog

TheTruthHurts! on 17 November 2008

It will continue to pick up, it just takes time.



FinalEvangelion on 17 November 2008
goddog said:
FinalEvangelion said:

 

This is a good graph on adoption of various technologies in the past I found on Blu-ray forums / AVS.  As you can see, these technologies aren't accepted over night and are often met with alot of resistance in the first years.  BD has already surpassed LD in two years what LD did in 20 years.

if you believe these charts dvd, only has a 40% market penetration right now

who did the research on these?  does it include gaming stations? how about computers that play dvds? 

also the B&W tv chart is waaaaaay off. B&W tv was available in the late 1920s, and color as early as 47. 

 

 

DVD was the one with the fastest adoption rate - close to 70%.  CD had close to 50% by 1998.  Was B&W commerically available from the 1920s and color from 47?

 

unfortunately, I don't know the BG info on the graph, so take it as a grain of salt for now.  I will try to find more

 



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

Conservatives:  Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.

 

quaiky on 17 November 2008
goddog said:
FinalEvangelion said:

 

This is a good graph on adoption of various technologies in the past I found on Blu-ray forums / AVS.  As you can see, these technologies aren't accepted over night and are often met with alot of resistance in the first years.  BD has already surpassed LD in two years what LD did in 20 years.

if you believe these charts dvd, only has a 40% market penetration right now

who did the research on these?  does it include gaming stations? how about computers that play dvds? 

also the B&W tv chart is waaaaaay off. B&W tv was available in the late 1920s, and color as early as 47. 

 

not true. dvd is the first line and its at bit below 70% in the 7th year (which is 2004 based on start in 1997 according to that graph),  so dvd had the fastest adoption rate till now.

what year do we see as the start of BD? 2006, if you start with 2008 then near 10% is a really good adoption rate till now.

But to keep up with DVD it has to do about 10% per year from now on which will be harder i guess since it will be dependant on HDTV adoption rate too (no idea how high that is atm).

 



Around the Network
Squilliam on 17 November 2008
FinalEvangelion said:
goddog said:
FinalEvangelion said:

 

This is a good graph on adoption of various technologies in the past I found on Blu-ray forums / AVS.  As you can see, these technologies aren't accepted over night and are often met with alot of resistance in the first years.  BD has already surpassed LD in two years what LD did in 20 years.

if you believe these charts dvd, only has a 40% market penetration right now

who did the research on these?  does it include gaming stations? how about computers that play dvds? 

also the B&W tv chart is waaaaaay off. B&W tv was available in the late 1920s, and color as early as 47. 

 

 

DVD was the one with the fastest adoption rate - close to 70%.  CD had close to 50% by 1998.  Was B&W commerically available from the 1920s and color from 47?

 

unfortunately, I don't know the BG info on the graph, so take it as a grain of salt for now.  I will try to find more

 

Then its a bad sign for Blu-Ray.

 



Tease.

quaiky on 17 November 2008
FinalEvangelion said:
goddog said:
FinalEvangelion said:

 

This is a good graph on adoption of various technologies in the past I found on Blu-ray forums / AVS.  As you can see, these technologies aren't accepted over night and are often met with alot of resistance in the first years.  BD has already surpassed LD in two years what LD did in 20 years.

if you believe these charts dvd, only has a 40% market penetration right now

who did the research on these?  does it include gaming stations? how about computers that play dvds? 

also the B&W tv chart is waaaaaay off. B&W tv was available in the late 1920s, and color as early as 47. 

 

 

DVD was the one with the fastest adoption rate - close to 70%.  CD had close to 50% by 1998.  Was B&W commerically available from the 1920s and color from 47?

 

unfortunately, I don't know the BG info on the graph, so take it as a grain of salt for now.  I will try to find more

 

did some reading on wikipedia now

B&W tv, the first tv's in the 1920s were electromechanical devices with a spinning wheel inside and had nothing to do with current TV's, in the laste 1930s the first cathode ray tube TVs entered market (starting in germany), but soon after WW2 started and so production was stopped again cause of war after only a few thousend TV's sold (you could theoretically count these to but then bw tv line would be really flat) so starting after ww2 is maybe not completely correct but it starts probably at the point when TVs were comercially available to broad masses.

on color tv there was the first color tv broadcast still using mechanical scanning in the late 30s, the shadow mask color TV was patented in 1938 in germany, but again ww2 stopped all a few years and it took till 1950 till  there were the first programms in color and they were stopped again in 1951 to be continued with another system in 1953 in the us. so i guess 1954 is not too far off for the comercial start of color tv.

 



goddog on 17 November 2008
quaiky said:
goddog said:
FinalEvangelion said:

 

This is a good graph on adoption of various technologies in the past I found on Blu-ray forums / AVS.  As you can see, these technologies aren't accepted over night and are often met with alot of resistance in the first years.  BD has already surpassed LD in two years what LD did in 20 years.

if you believe these charts dvd, only has a 40% market penetration right now

who did the research on these?  does it include gaming stations? how about computers that play dvds? 

also the B&W tv chart is waaaaaay off. B&W tv was available in the late 1920s, and color as early as 47. 

 

not true. dvd is the first line and its at bit below 70% in the 7th year (which is 2004 based on start in 1997 according to that graph),  so dvd had the fastest adoption rate till now.

what year do we see as the start of BD? 2006, if you start with 2008 then near 10% is a really good adoption rate till now.

But to keep up with DVD it has to do about 10% per year from now on which will be harder i guess since it will be dependant on HDTV adoption rate too (no idea how high that is atm).

 

alright, i miss read the chart, this still shows tv color and BW wrong.

edit your research posted after i started on this is close to to adaquite

there were color tvs comercialy avalible in 41 though suspended until 45, and rca did not try again until 49

bw were avalible comercaily though before the war and directly after. 

 

 



come play minecraft @  mcg.hansrotech.com

minecraft name: hansrotec

XBL name: Goddog

goddog on 17 November 2008
quaiky said:
FinalEvangelion said:
goddog said:
FinalEvangelion said:

 

This is a good graph on adoption of various technologies in the past I found on Blu-ray forums / AVS.  As you can see, these technologies aren't accepted over night and are often met with alot of resistance in the first years.  BD has already surpassed LD in two years what LD did in 20 years.

if you believe these charts dvd, only has a 40% market penetration right now

who did the research on these?  does it include gaming stations? how about computers that play dvds? 

also the B&W tv chart is waaaaaay off. B&W tv was available in the late 1920s, and color as early as 47. 

 

 

DVD was the one with the fastest adoption rate - close to 70%.  CD had close to 50% by 1998.  Was B&W commerically available from the 1920s and color from 47?

 

unfortunately, I don't know the BG info on the graph, so take it as a grain of salt for now.  I will try to find more

 

did some reading on wikipedia now

B&W tv, the first tv's in the 1920s were electromechanical devices with a spinning wheel inside and had nothing to do with current TV's, in the laste 1930s the first cathode ray tube TVs entered market (starting in germany), but soon after WW2 started and so production was stopped again cause of war after only a few thousend TV's sold (you could theoretically count these to but then bw tv line would be really flat) so starting after ww2 is maybe not completely correct but it starts probably at the point when TVs were comercially available to broad masses.

on color tv there was the first color tv broadcast still using mechanical scanning in the late 30s, the shadow mask color TV was patented in 1938 in germany, but again ww2 stopped all a few years and it took till 1950 till  there were the first programms in color and they were stopped again in 1951 to be continued with another system in 1953 in the us. so i guess 1954 is not too far off for the comercial start of color tv.

 

your missing though with color tv, that it was availbe in 51 with marketing stunts showing off tvs all across the country of various manufactures. they were for sale to the public, and shows were braodcast despite the ban from 51 on in color though mainly live shows.

this graph is still very misleading 

 



come play minecraft @  mcg.hansrotech.com

minecraft name: hansrotec

XBL name: Goddog

xenophon13 on 17 November 2008

um. Wouldnt 8.5 million ps3 be huge in america? Kinda off topic, but that would double their user base in on year.