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lightbleeder said:
Bush is probably the worst president US ever had. About Bill Clinton, I'd like to see him in office again too

 

Clinton RULES!!!



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Kasz216 said:Oh yeah, he's a really crappy president.... but still I perfer people getting trashed for the right reaons. The gap between the rich and the poor and Africa are about his only acomplishments i can think of. Well and faith based funding i guess.  A lot of people seem to like it...(like Obama.) even if i don't.

I have been a consistent critic of President Bush, but in the interest of being fair...I can list a few successful Bush policies: the Millennium Challenge Account, deft handling of our alliance with India, aforementioned HIV/Malaria initiatives in Africa, his advocacy of free trade, and his Supreme Court nominations (depending on which side of the split you are on)…unfortunately, his failures have surpassed his successes in both numbers and magnitude.  

Anyways, would I vote for Bush if given the opportunity...let me put it this way: HELL NO!!!


halogamer1989 said:

I would.  And no John McCain is not a Bush third term either.  Bush is hardcore against terrorists and I don't want 9/11 v2 under Obama.

 

Drat. Well it was a good thing that Obama scrapped that Pro Terror Campaign Slogan he was going to pitch.

 

Urrrrrr.... who isn't pro-terror?

And when did Bush become the foreign relations expert anyways? Al Gore destroyed him when it came to foreign relations knowledge but Bush became president anyways, remember?

 



That Guy said:
halogamer1989 said:

I would.  And no John McCain is not a Bush third term either.  Bush is hardcore against terrorists and I don't want 9/11 v2 under Obama.

 

Drat. Well it was a good thing that Obama scrapped that Pro Terror Campaign Slogan he was going to pitch.

 

Urrrrrr.... who isn't pro-terror?

And when did Bush become the foreign relations expert anyways? Al Gore destroyed him when it came to foreign relations knowledge but Bush became president anyways, remember?

 

Bush won because he was the cozier candidate, pretty much both in 2000 and 2004.  But we saw how well that turned out...although it is unfair to say that Gore or Kerry would have done a perfect job either without seeing what they actually would have done.

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

halogamer1989 said: And you need to educate yourself on Wahhabism.  Whether or not we fight them is irrelavent they will hit us hard, war or not, even subverting their Islamic identity to do so.

You also should educate yourself. The term "Wahhabism" is actually offensive to many of the people who follow a stricter path. The term "Salafi" is preferable. That is what UBL and Al-Qaeda are...Salafi Jihadists. I liken it to calling Lutherans after Martin Luther...only they do not have a problem with it. 

 



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akuma587 said:
That Guy said:
halogamer1989 said:

I would.  And no John McCain is not a Bush third term either.  Bush is hardcore against terrorists and I don't want 9/11 v2 under Obama.

 

Drat. Well it was a good thing that Obama scrapped that Pro Terror Campaign Slogan he was going to pitch.

 

Urrrrrr.... who isn't pro-terror?

And when did Bush become the foreign relations expert anyways? Al Gore destroyed him when it came to foreign relations knowledge but Bush became president anyways, remember?

 

Bush won because he was the cozier candidate, pretty much both in 2000 and 2004.  But we saw how well that turned out...although it is unfair to say that Gore or Kerry would have done a perfect job either without seeing what they actually would have done.

 

 

I think the Democrats beat themselves in 2000 and 2004.

 

Instead of riding on the Coattails of Clinton, Gore went out and purposely distanced himself from Clintons success and decided to go his own way. That combined with practically no personality, he lost to bust in that infamous hanging chad thingee.

John Kerry lost because of his infamous "I voted for the 82 billion dollars before I voted against it." That and the weird swiftboat thing gave the victory to bush in another close election.

 



Bush was an absolutely horrible president and many of our problems today go back to his policies. I would not only say no to another Bush term, but HELLLLLL NO to it.

If Clinton was able to run again in 2000, its highly likely that he would have beat Bush as well. Gore did everything to lose the election when he should have easily won it, but he was stiff, forced the kiss on his wife that disgusted many and did n't come off well to the regular person.

But Obama vs Bush would be very easy for me. I voted in 2000 and 2004 against Bush... This year for the first time since 1996 I'm actually Voting FOR someone I like.

To those supporting McCain this year. Do you consider yourself a typical Republican? Or are you a Fundie or Neocon? Did McCain really excite you back before the primaries started? Are you voting for McCain or just for the Republican?

McCain isnot your typical republican and we all know that. However he's pretended to be more like one just for this election. If he were to win, would he revert to his 2000 self? Or would he be the Bush lapdog of the past few years?



 


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The Attorney General Candidate Who Promises to Prosecute Bush
Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2008-10-29 14:48.

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Ask her about it yourself tonight online.

Charlotte Dennett is running for Attorney General of the state of Vermont.

David Swanson will be interviewing Charlotte Dennett with your help this Wednesday evening, October 29, 2008, 8:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. Eastern. Go to http://www.thepeoplespeakradio.net/listen-live to listen live. You'll find instructions there to enter a paltalk chat room where you can post questions.

You can also phone in and ask your questions on the air. Call in tollfree from anywhere in the United States or Canada at 888-228-4494 or anywhere else in the world at 877-489-6350.

Following the show, the audio file will be posted at http://www.thepeoplespeakradio.net/audio/2008 and you can find there now the recordings of numerous shows with amazing guests, including Cindy Sheehan, Lincoln Chafee, Brad Friedman, Shirin Ebadi, Phil Donahue, Mark Crispin Miller, William Odom, Byron DeLear, John Dean, Elizabeth Kucinich, etc.

To support The People Speak Radio (which will soon be drastically reducing its programming if you don't!) please donate at http://www.thepeoplespeakradio.net/donate

ABOUT CHARLOTTE DENNETT:

Lots of political candidates make campaign promises. But not like Charlotte Dennett’s. Dennett, 61, the Progressive Party’s candidate for Attorney General of the northeastern state of Vermont. Charlotte Dennett has been practicing law in Vermont since 1997 and has been an investigative journalist for more than 30 years. "Vermonters deserve an Attorney General who will prosecute those who break the law," says Dennett.

"Vermonters pay a huge amount of money and a disproportionate share of soldiers' lives in this illegal war. If our elected representatives will not act to hold President Bush accountable, it is up to us to use this final remaining tool."

Charlotte is competing against current Attorney General William Sorrell, and two other candidates in the 2008 election in Vermont. Vermont is a liberal state and the only state Bush has not visited as president. A resolution calling for Congress to impeach Bush and Dick Cheney was approved in the state senate in 2007, following the passage of similar resolutions in over 40 cities and towns in Vermont.

There is little doubt that Dennett can win this election IF ENOUGH VERMONTERS FIND OUT ABOUT HER.

Vincent Bugliosi, the legendary criminal prosecutor and bestselling author of The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, appeared in Burlington with Charlotte on Thursday, September 17 at Burlington City Hall. The two attorneys announced their intention to commence legal proceedings against George W. Bush in the event that Dennett succeeds in her bid to become the next Attorney General of Vermont.

Dennett said she read "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" earlier this year and was interested in pursuing Vincent Bugliosi’s notion that local prosecutors could bring criminal charges against the president. Listen to Bugliosi on the People Speak Radio here:
http://www.thepeoplespeakradio.net/audio/2008/#october

But Dennett said she is not a single-issue candidate, adding that she is also interested in issues surrounding the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant in Vernon and its proposal to extend its operating license beyond 2012.

Charlotte is also a Harper Collins author, and the co-chair of the Book Division of the National Writers Union. Most recently, she published an essay, "The War on Terror and the Great Game for Oil: How the Media Missed the Con- text," in the paperback edition of "Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press," which has won the National Press Club Award for Press Criticism and received the "Best Book in Current Affairs" award by the Association of Independent Book Publishers.

Please visit Charlotte Dennett's website and watch the television ad that your contributions can help put on the air in Vermont:
http://www.dennettforag.com

You can also do more than give money. You can telephone Vermonters!

Vermont has 623,908 people and 446,642 registered voters as of October 24. Many of the rest are too young to vote. So, the odds are higher than 2 out of 3 that any adult you find this way is a registered voter. Don't worry about calling a Republican. In a poll a year ago more than 61% of likely voters in Vermont supported impeachment, and this includes Republicans. This means the odds are high that any Vermont adults you call are likely Charlotte supporters. In a recent survey in Brattleboro indicates 72% would favor Charlotte just for the prosecution of Bush. That's without even considering party affiliation or other issues. They just need to hear about her position on this one issue.

INSTRUCTIONS

1. Go to zabasearch.com, 411.com, or whitepages.com and get phone numbers of people in Vermont. Call someone with your own name -- it's fun !
2. Say something like:
"Hello, Pat Harmon ? This is Pat Harmon. Hello !! Have you heard of Charlotte Dennett ? She's the brave Progressive Party candidate for Vermont attorney general who's going to prosecute Bush. " And you can mention her other stands and her web site (dennettforag.com), and you can do that in a message, too.
3. Use other names similar to your own and to your friends names. (This prevents people with names like Jim Smith from getting too many calls.) Call everyone you know in Vermont. You can also call people from a Vermont phonebook at the library, or call businesses.

Charlotte ---- Ms. Dennett is super, and you'd think she's super even if she weren't doing this incredible brave thing. Because besides this . . .
Ms. Dennett will protect consumers and vigorously investigate inflated prescription drug pricing, credit card rip-offs, predatory bank lending, gas price gouging, and other forms of consumer fraud.
Ms. Dennett will protect workers from discrimination, such as discrimination based on race, color, religion, sexual orientation, age, disability and HIV status, and from retaliation.
Ms. Dennett will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect both public and private sector employees against retaliation.
Ms. Dennett will protect the environment and oppose the relicensing of Vermont Yankee.
Ms. Dennett will reform sex-offender laws so that the police and prosecutors have better tools for catching sex offenders.

You can tell anyone that the instructions are posted at bushindictment.org
It would be nice to hear what you think of this and what changes you suggest. ===> bushindictment@gmail.com

Charlotte Dennett for Attorney General PO Box 281 Montpelier, Vermont 05601 dennettforag.com

If you prefer to have a phone list of registered Vermont voters, you can request an assigned phone list and the latest Dennett approved phone script at Sue4theBillofRights@yahoo.com



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Username2324 said:
An Obama Nation is an Obomination.

You heard it here first.

P.S. Yes I know it's spelled with an A

That's cute.  You come up with that all by yourself?

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson