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Rock_on_2008 said:
Snesboy said:
Jackson50 said:
Rock_on_2008 said:
Jackson50 said:
Rock_on_2008 said:

If McCain gets elected President of USA I will believe USA is still a backwards nation. Current President of USA George W. Bush  has been a very divisive leader with his domestic and foreign policies.

Please vote for Obama, American people.

 

President Bush may have been divisive in regards to international relations, but he was far from divisive in regards to domestic politics. He worked with Democratic senators on some major pieces of legislation. He worked with Sen. Kennedy (D-MA) on the NCLBA of 2001. He also worked with prominent Democrats on the CIRA of 2007. I am not saying President Bush was a "uniter," but he was not as much of a divider as he is sometimes portrayed as.

He has increased the gap between rich and poor. Rich have became richer and the poor have became poorer. Bush did nothing when the Katrina Hurricane destroyed Louisiana back in 2005. Bush has not ended wars in Iraq and Afghanistan while American people demanded him to end the wars.

 

I am not sure if you are an American or not, but it seems you are quite ignorant. Most polls show that the majority of Americans support the war effort in Afghanistan. The income gap may be increasing, but if the quality of life of low-income people is increasing...how is that bad? The methodology for determining income inequality is flawed. It does not take into account such benefits as employer-provided health insurance, and government aid such as food stamps or free daycare.

 

Maybe the poor should get jobs and start paying taxes instead of living off of welfare, which mind you, taxpayers pay for. Where's your proof anyways?

 

We have state governments for a reason. Call me cold-hearted but didn't the citizens of New Orleans have an entire week to get the hell out of there? Yeah, they did. They could have left.

Don't give the crap of those too poor to leave. Humans have legs, they could have walked. Yeah, I am a dick.

 

George Bush has failed epicly with the American economy. 1)Hard work families in America have lost their houses due to the credit crunch, 2)increasing unemployment rates, 3)increase in oil prices and trillions of dollars being throw away on two wars Iraq and Afghanistan which can not be won. Wars resulting in deaths of 5000 American troops.

 

1) Bush has nothing to do with idiots buying a house they can't afford with a variable rate that will bite them in the butt. Your comment doesnt even make sense. If I ran up my credit card and couldnt afford the minimum payments does that mean I should blame Bush?

2)Unemployment has been at historical lows since Bush took office. It has been a little less than 4.5%. For comparison 5.0% was considered "full employment" by the Cliniton Administration. Also the increase of unemployment is caused by the Liberal controlled congress and their "wonderful ideas", like raisng the minimum wage.

3)2001-2006 under a conservative congress gas rose from $1.00 to a little over $2.00. 2007-present under a liberal congress gas has risen to over $4.00. Yet you blame Bush. Amazing.  

 



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senseinobaka said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Wow snesboy.

You blame poverty on the poor?

Do you blame rape victims for being so slutty and asking for it?

Incongruent comparison. Rape is a violent crime commited by violent criminals.

However, poverty has shown to be inflicted by the person who is poor. The top ranked causes of poverty are all personal choices and include; not finishing high school/GED, having children that the person can't afford, and drug addiction.

Infact there are studies that show that the worst financial disaster that can befall a poor person is to win or inherit a very large sum of money. Poor people who win millions in lottery money are usually imporvished within a year.

I look at it like this. Poverty is like alcoholism. Poverty is a problem with money, alcoholism is a problem with alcohol. You cant treat alcoholism by just giving the alcholic booze, that makes no sense. They need support and education. For poor people, the worst thing that can be done is to give them money when what they need is education and support.

Of course that's logical and doesnt emotionally satisfy those who see the poor as victims of hard workers.

 

Most homeless people get back on their feet within a few months.

The vast majority of "chronic homeless," who are homeless the rest of their lives, are victims of mental illnesses and/or drug addictions and/or molestation/rape/abuse as children.

Yes they are victims.

Yes they should be helped.

I'm not saying throw a bunch of money at them.  But they need food and a clean place to sleep and bathe so they don't starve and freeze to death in the streets.  You think they're choosing to die because they're lazy and can't find a free ride?

They're not victims of hard workers.  They're victims of a system that's hardly working.



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luinil said:
O.O Really? I mean REALLY!!!???? I didn't know he would unite me with my already fellow Americans. I thought we were united by our nationality already. I guess I missed that memo...

So he can really unite the country even if he is so divisive on the religious and racial issues? Obama is the one bringing up race every chance he gets, the Republicans won't touch that with a 20 ft pole. Obama is the one who has FRIENDLY ties to known and unrepentant terrorists. He can bring the America haters and America supports together? Really? Cool, I want to see him do it before I cast my vote.

So you also agree that Obama was sent by God? Sounds like you listen to the Hollow-eyed hippy Nancy Pelosi. That in itself is moronic. If you believe in the same God that I do and Barrack claims to, then you should know that his voting record on botched abortions (where the baby survived) are nothing less than supporting murder of infants. A man who supports murder of innocent unprotected life is not fit to receive my vote.


IF anybody really wants change, throw your bum of a Congressman out and put an ENTIRELY new Congress in this November, that should change things up. If anyone wants to unite the country, (s)he must support that country's values and call everyone to him/her as a statesman would, not as a pandering politician.


 Luinil: love your talking points. Everything you said has come straight from left-wing political blogs and the democrat party play book. I could go through and demolish all of these points but I won't waste my time.

 

Irony.


 



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Jackson50 said:
Rock_on_2008 said:

If McCain gets elected President of USA I will believe USA is still a backwards nation. Current President of USA George W. Bush  has been a very divisive leader with his domestic and foreign policies.

Please vote for Obama, American people.

 

President Bush may have been divisive in regards to international relations, but he was far from divisive in regards to domestic politics. He worked with Democratic senators on some major pieces of legislation. He worked with Sen. Kennedy (D-MA) on the NCLBA of 2001. He also worked with prominent Democrats on the CIRA of 2007. I am not saying President Bush was a "uniter," but he was not as much of a divider as he is sometimes portrayed as.

Are you kidding me?  Congress and everyone else on Capitol Hill has characterized the Bush administration as the most difficult administration to work with in modern history...even Republicans.  They say that they are way too focused on power struggles and turn everything into a loyalty or political battle.

 



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

The Ghost of RubangB said:
senseinobaka said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Wow snesboy.

You blame poverty on the poor?

Do you blame rape victims for being so slutty and asking for it?

Incongruent comparison. Rape is a violent crime commited by violent criminals.

However, poverty has shown to be inflicted by the person who is poor. The top ranked causes of poverty are all personal choices and include; not finishing high school/GED, having children that the person can't afford, and drug addiction.

Infact there are studies that show that the worst financial disaster that can befall a poor person is to win or inherit a very large sum of money. Poor people who win millions in lottery money are usually imporvished within a year.

I look at it like this. Poverty is like alcoholism. Poverty is a problem with money, alcoholism is a problem with alcohol. You cant treat alcoholism by just giving the alcholic booze, that makes no sense. They need support and education. For poor people, the worst thing that can be done is to give them money when what they need is education and support.

Of course that's logical and doesnt emotionally satisfy those who see the poor as victims of hard workers.

 

Most homeless people get back on their feet within a few months.

The vast majority of "chronic homeless," who are homeless the rest of their lives, are victims of mental illnesses and/or drug addictions and/or molestation/rape/abuse as children.

Yes they are victims.

Yes they should be helped.

I'm not saying throw a bunch of money at them.  But they need food and a clean place to sleep and bathe so they don't starve and freeze to death in the streets.  You think they're choosing to die because they're lazy and can't find a free ride?

They're not victims of hard workers.  They're victims of a system that's hardly working.

 

Someone stop everything!  Its someone who actually knows something about poverty!

Life is miserable for most people who are poor.  They work long hours at low-paying jobs with not much chance for advancement, and they live from paycheck to paycheck.  They have no sense of financial security, and if they have ever been convicted of a felony their chances of moving upwards in society is almost nonexistent.  Very few of them can afford to educate their children even with government assistance.

They don't have the luxury of sitting here on a forum and talking about how its the poor's fault they are poor either because they are out working or cannot even afford a computer/internet connection.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Poor people suck.




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