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akuma587 on 28 August 2008
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The Ghost of RubangB said:
senseinobaka said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Wow snesboy.

You blame poverty on the poor?

Do you blame rape victims for being so slutty and asking for it?

Incongruent comparison. Rape is a violent crime commited by violent criminals.

However, poverty has shown to be inflicted by the person who is poor. The top ranked causes of poverty are all personal choices and include; not finishing high school/GED, having children that the person can't afford, and drug addiction.

Infact there are studies that show that the worst financial disaster that can befall a poor person is to win or inherit a very large sum of money. Poor people who win millions in lottery money are usually imporvished within a year.

I look at it like this. Poverty is like alcoholism. Poverty is a problem with money, alcoholism is a problem with alcohol. You cant treat alcoholism by just giving the alcholic booze, that makes no sense. They need support and education. For poor people, the worst thing that can be done is to give them money when what they need is education and support.

Of course that's logical and doesnt emotionally satisfy those who see the poor as victims of hard workers.

 

Most homeless people get back on their feet within a few months.

The vast majority of "chronic homeless," who are homeless the rest of their lives, are victims of mental illnesses and/or drug addictions and/or molestation/rape/abuse as children.

Yes they are victims.

Yes they should be helped.

I'm not saying throw a bunch of money at them.  But they need food and a clean place to sleep and bathe so they don't starve and freeze to death in the streets.  You think they're choosing to die because they're lazy and can't find a free ride?

They're not victims of hard workers.  They're victims of a system that's hardly working.

 

Someone stop everything!  Its someone who actually knows something about poverty!

Life is miserable for most people who are poor.  They work long hours at low-paying jobs with not much chance for advancement, and they live from paycheck to paycheck.  They have no sense of financial security, and if they have ever been convicted of a felony their chances of moving upwards in society is almost nonexistent.  Very few of them can afford to educate their children even with government assistance.

They don't have the luxury of sitting here on a forum and talking about how its the poor's fault they are poor either because they are out working or cannot even afford a computer/internet connection.



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