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ckmlb said:
Gnizmo said:
ckmlb said:
More bitter Nintendo fanboys bitching about the love GTA IV is getting.

I would recomend you try reading the post before commenting on it. There is nothing bitching about GTA4s praise at all. There is a lot commenting on the reaction internet message boards have had to GTA4.


Questioning the validity of the reviews is not bitching about the praise? Even the thread title itself is filled with arrogant BS, HD console userbase desperation?

LOL that was deliberate hyperbole. Remember, the proper order is 1.) Read 2.) FINISH Reading 3.) React. If you do them out of order, you end up looking silly.

If you had actually read even a few minor paragraphs in, you would have noticed that all I was really arguing about in terms of the review was the difference between a 10 and a 9.9, and even people that love GTA IV have pointed out that there are plenty of reasons that can be cited to drop the score by .1

Another flaw in your argument is the idea that I'm complaining about the scores, when I really don't care about review scores as I consider them flawed at their fundamental level. Again, this is something you would have found out if you had read a few paragraphs in.

 



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ckmlb said:
Gnizmo said:
ckmlb said:
More bitter Nintendo fanboys bitching about the love GTA IV is getting.

I would recomend you try reading the post before commenting on it. There is nothing bitching about GTA4s praise at all. There is a lot commenting on the reaction internet message boards have had to GTA4.


Questioning the validity of the reviews is not bitching about the praise? Even the thread title itself is filled with arrogant BS, HD console userbase desperation?

It's obvious you didn't read it, since that is not what he did. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

naznatips said:
ckmlb post constructively and politely or do not post. This is a warning.

Um, a little off topic, but watching you give warnings (which I really hope I can be a good poster so I avoid those myself), with that avatar, just strikes me as freakin' cool. 

Back on topic. I was almost thinking this was going to be like that conspiracy thread, but it at least puts this a bit more reasonably. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

which conspiracy thread are you talking about?



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Grey Acumen said:
which conspiracy thread are you talking about?

The one that claimed GTA4 was getting good reviews because it wasn't on a Nintendo platform. I thought the same thing honestly, but I should have known better thinking back over your post history.



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>>360 is the king of America as of yet, but PS3 has claimed Japan's HD gaming market and is on the way to do the same for Europe.



To a certain extent I agree with the sentiment that the better reviews are CONNECTED to the fact that it's not a Nintendo game, but I don't feel it's directly CAUSED by that fact alone. Basically, my attempt here was to track down what the actual cause was for this phenomena, and this is what I came up with.

Actually, the theory I was originally starting out with when I started writing this was that game review communities were essentially lashing out at Nintendo for upsetting their well established standards of game review. However as I was writing, it occurred to me that review sites may actually be unable to adapt.

Of course it could also be a little of column A and a little of column B. Of course, I also recall galaxy or some other nintendo game getting huge reviews and the PS3 and 360 crowd were crying foul all over the place as well. This may just be a matter of waiting for those sites that are spending more time on the review or are just waiting to see how the field settles before setting out their own review, that may be lower score than the current flash flood of 10s.

I am quite curious to see what Yatzee while do with GTA IV though. Either its going to be right up his alley or he's going to tear it apart.



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My Prediction: Wii will be achieve 48% market share by the end of 2008, and will achieve 50% by the end of june of 09. Prediction Failed.

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Well the troubles created by GTA shows how they are feeling somehow irritated by the success of the alternative games, is like the fear to vanish in a wave of casual games and mini-games, but this is a self-created trouble, the most hyped games are just sequels, is like the dry up of the original content and the suddenly vanish of the pseudo-hardcore players...

Probably the lack of good sales of the HD consoles vs the Wii is showing how small can be the pseudo-harcore market, and since the PS2 had most of the support, lots of fans thought that the PS2 was full of "hardcore gamers"...

 Horrible truth, the core and casual market are bigger than the hardcore...



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i gave up reading this boring anti PS360 thread about 1/4 the way through.