damn it, where is Rol when you need him, he must see my brilliant thread

oh btw people, only DmeisterJ realized it was a joke =P

Well I only read the OP but no one claimed it was perfect they just said it was so great that the flaws could be over looked and it could be rated perfect.

The omly game I ever heard anyone claim perfect was OoT

Really, we read science books and watch documentaries for fun? Many, including me play games for educational purposes only -among others. Learning language, philosophy, cooking, etc. I find most gameplay in games a nuisance as I'm only looking for specific material I can build into my body of knowledge. As games become bigger budget and more mainstream expect more school lesson games (from language to biology, etc) games to do with sciences and philosophy, others to do with history or exercise and etc to stand side to side to the usual time waster "fun" games.

 Is this a new trend? Nintendo fans bashing on other consoles and then telling everyone it's a joke when they get flamed?

Honestly, the cell phone is pretty innovative. It not only adds freedom to the game but it also retains immersion, which makes it particularly impressive.

Pretty much everything else I have experienced thus far has been done in multiple WRPGs... I guess it's slightly innovative to add it to a sandbox game. Still, overall, it's not that amazing. The online mode is great but I hesitate to call it innovative if you include games outside the genre (and even Crackdown had some elements of it, though GTA is miles ahead of CD online).

Overall, it's a really polished game that moves the genre forward considerably. Innovative? A little. But it's not nearly as innovative as GTA III, a game that really threw the industry on its head and has been copied by every sandbox game made since that time. That's innovation.

 I hope it doesn't become a trend... this is getting pathetic and ridicilous. And this is even coming from a Nintendo fan too. D:

You guys do realize people are aware that every game has flaws? A game can still get a ten and have flaws. No game is perfect, most people realize that. I've not seen a Grand Theft Auto IV review that says the game didn't have any flaws. At least not so far. But I do think it's a good quality game for what it is, and I'm not even much of a GTA fan (I've just never understood what made it so... great, I guess).

Yes, every game has flaws. GTA has enough to warrant a lower score IMO. Especially when you look at the asshats at IGN who gave every single category a 10. Given the acting, dialogue, graphical quality, and framerate/pop-in of the game, that's ridiculous and 100% bullshit.

But while I've never understood what made GTA great, I've never knocked it. It just isn't my cup of tea. People are pretty passionate about the game, though. I think a lot of the high scores it gets are probably true scores. Maybe some tens are a little over the top, but I've never heard anyone say it has no flaws.

Jajajajajaja, who wants an Anti-SMG thread for this super overrated game??? or who did a thread against smg??? Nobody, so, dont do this kind of thread, specially for game like this one.