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DonFerrari on 02 December 2019
colafitte said:
It looks like Switch demolished competition once again in Black Friday day. It seems like PS4 again run out of stock just before BF like previous years.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/02/tech/nintendo-switch-black-friday-sales/index.html

Curious 1st paragraph....

"New York (CNN Business)Gamers are getting excited about the next generation of PlayStation and Xbox. But those won't come out until next holiday season. In the meantime, the Nintendo Switch is reaping the rewards of video game players holding out for new gaming systems."

CNN said it guys, people are buying Switchs because they want PS5s and XB2s next year.....

Yes, makes a lot of sense and those guys are specialist in game hardware sales.

"I'll buy Switch because PS5 will launch next year, why will I buy it? To not play the games that will release on PS5".



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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colafitte on 02 December 2019
zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:
It looks like Switch demolished competition once again in Black Friday day. It seems like PS4 again run out of stock just before BF like previous years.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/02/tech/nintendo-switch-black-friday-sales/index.html

Curious 1st paragraph....

"New York (CNN Business)Gamers are getting excited about the next generation of PlayStation and Xbox. But those won't come out until next holiday season. In the meantime, the Nintendo Switch is reaping the rewards of video game players holding out for new gaming systems."

CNN said it guys, people are buying Switchs because they want PS5s and XB2s next year.....

Nah it's more like they are saying PS4/XBO are being affected by having successors on the horizon while Switch is unaffected by this.

What i read there is that Switch is the one being affected (positively) or benefited because old consoles are indeed old....Switch is reaping the rewards!! Their words, not mine....



zorg1000 on 02 December 2019
colafitte said:
zorg1000 said:

Nah it's more like they are saying PS4/XBO are being affected by having successors on the horizon while Switch is unaffected by this.

What i read there is that Switch is the one being affected (positively) or benefited because old consoles are indeed old....Switch is reaping the rewards!! Their words, not mine....

Reaping the rewards=winning because the others are declining

It doesnt actually say anything about Switch sales being up, just mentions the others being down.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

colafitte on 02 December 2019
zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:

What i read there is that Switch is the one being affected (positively) or benefited because old consoles are indeed old....Switch is reaping the rewards!! Their words, not mine....

Reaping the rewards=winning because the others are declining

It doesnt actually say anything about Switch sales being up, just mentions the others being down.

This is what they say in the next line:

"The Switch was among most popular items sold on Black Friday, according to analysts who said that the gaming console benefited from aging competition."

XDDDD, but ok, ok i won't argue with you anymore today....



zorg1000 on 02 December 2019
colafitte said:
zorg1000 said:

Reaping the rewards=winning because the others are declining

It doesnt actually say anything about Switch sales being up, just mentions the others being down.

That's what says in the next line:

"The Switch was among most popular items sold on Black Friday, according to analysts who said that the gaming console benefited from aging competition."

XDDDD, but ok, ok i won't argue with you anymore today....

Yes, it benefited (won) by the others being down. The article refers to placement, not absolute sales numbers.

Also your original argument was that Switch was affecting PS4/XBO and nothing in that article indicates that, it mentions how they are down due to age and upcoming successors, not because of Switch.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

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colafitte on 02 December 2019
zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:

That's what says in the next line:

"The Switch was among most popular items sold on Black Friday, according to analysts who said that the gaming console benefited from aging competition."

XDDDD, but ok, ok i won't argue with you anymore today....

Yes, it benefited (won) by the others being down. The article refers to placement, not absolute sales numbers.

Also your original argument was that Switch was affecting PS4/XBO and nothing in that article indicates that, it mentions how they are down due to age and upcoming successors, not because of Switch.

Well, the part you saying the article refers just to placement but not absolute numbers is something you made up.

The article in fact is saying both things, that PS4/XBO are slowing down because old age (no mention of Switch eating sales), and that the lack of competition is benefiting Switch (the article specifically says Switch received a "potential boost in sales" just after saying it was because "a reflection (causality) of the competition feeling a bit long-in-the-tooth".

In conclusion, the article is saying PS4+XBO were not affected by Switch itself but by themselves (because they're old), but Switch was indeed benefited (boosting sales) because of PS4/XBO going down this year.



zorg1000 on 02 December 2019
colafitte said:
zorg1000 said:

Yes, it benefited (won) by the others being down. The article refers to placement, not absolute sales numbers.

Also your original argument was that Switch was affecting PS4/XBO and nothing in that article indicates that, it mentions how they are down due to age and upcoming successors, not because of Switch.

Well, the part you saying the article refers just to placement but not absolute numbers is something you made up.

The article in fact is saying both things, that PS4/XBO are slowing down because old age (no mention of Switch eating sales), and that the lack of competition is benefiting Switch (the article specifically says Switch received a "potential boost in sales" just after saying it was because "a reflection (causality) of the competition feeling a bit long-in-the-tooth".

In conclusion, the article is saying PS4+XBO were not affected by Switch itself but by themselves (because they're old), but Switch was indeed benefited (boosting sales) because of PS4/XBO going down this year.

"POTENTIAL boost in sales"

That means they dont know if it's up or not, just that it outsold the others.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

colafitte on 02 December 2019
zorg1000 said:
colafitte said:

Well, the part you saying the article refers just to placement but not absolute numbers is something you made up.

The article in fact is saying both things, that PS4/XBO are slowing down because old age (no mention of Switch eating sales), and that the lack of competition is benefiting Switch (the article specifically says Switch received a "potential boost in sales" just after saying it was because "a reflection (causality) of the competition feeling a bit long-in-the-tooth".

In conclusion, the article is saying PS4+XBO were not affected by Switch itself but by themselves (because they're old), but Switch was indeed benefited (boosting sales) because of PS4/XBO going down this year.

"POTENTIAL boost in sales"

That means they dont know if it's up or not, just that it outsold the others.

Oh COME ON!!! you're being nitpicky!!!. They're implying better sales all over the article!!. 

hahahahahahaha. I will not die today in this hill!!!!. 



zorg1000 on 02 December 2019
colafitte said:
zorg1000 said:

"POTENTIAL boost in sales"

That means they dont know if it's up or not, just that it outsold the others.

Oh COME ON!!! you're being nitpicky!!!. They're implying better sales all over the article!!. 

hahahahahahaha. I will not die today in this hill!!!!. 

I'm not being nitpicky, they used the word for a reason, if they knew it was up YoY than they wouldnt have said potential.

All they know is that Switch won and PS4/XBO interest is declining do to age and upcoming successors.



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RaptorChrist on 02 December 2019

I've been hearing about the PS4 being overdue for a price cut for a long time. Now that I've given it some thought, I recall the slim PS2 being around $129 way before the PS3 release. I remember this because FF12 had just released, and I remember buying a Slim PS2, FF12, and Guitar Hero. Granted, this was in a different time, and I think the Gamecube was cut down to $99 long before the gen was over. Perhaps this is why the PS2 saw such tremendous sales success, as it was extremely affordable, and had a shelf-life that persisted long after the PS3's troubled launch.