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I am thankful for so much these days. I'm thankful for friends, and family. For having a roof over my head, food in my belly, and maybe even the thought of being debt-free for the first time in 15 years. I'm thankful to have my health despite all my efforts to sabatoge my body with terrible habits and a pretty crappy diet. I'm very thankful that Nintendo has been able to rebound from the commercial failure that was the WiiU and to live in a time where just about any game can be played on the go. Of course, I'm also thankful that VGC continues to exist despite the heralding of the end of times for this little site. I may not be online as much as I was back in the late oughts, but I still enjoy checking in to see what's abuzz around these parts.




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Immersiveunreality said:
mZuzek said:

And what would "something" be?

Indeed because it never stopped doing something since the conception,so i also wonder what he views as "something".

I clearly added "Nothing... at our time scale". Why do people always forget part of what you say when replying or disagreeing or debating?

Anyway at our time scale the universe does absolutely nothing. For something to happen in the universe millions of years must pass. Try to see a star move away from where you see it today. It does move but by the time it does, you'll be so long dead and forgotten, your entire civilization may be too.

So at our scale, the universe does nothing, it just stands there, big and static and that's all. So I decided I don't like the universe and in accordance with the topic of this thread: I will not thank the universe for its laziness (as perceived at our time scale).

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CrazyGamer2017 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Indeed because it never stopped doing something since the conception,so i also wonder what he views as "something".

I clearly added "Nothing... at our time scale". Why do people always forget part of what you say when replying or disagreeing or debating?

Anyway at our time scale the universe does absolutely nothing. For something to happen in the universe millions of years must pass. Try to see a star move away from where you see it today. It does move but by the time it does, you'll be so long dead and forgotten, your entire civilization may be too.

So at our scale, the universe does nothing, it just stand there, big and static and that's all. So I decided I don't like the universe and in accordance with the topic of this thread: I will not thank the universe for its laziness (as perceived at our time scale).

Buuuut it is not static as it is in constant movement and also at our time scale,we ourselves and anything in this Milky Way is moving extremely fast around the Black hole in the center,thank the hole! :p

You do not need to see it for it to exist.



CrazyGamer2017 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

Indeed because it never stopped doing something since the conception,so i also wonder what he views as "something".

I clearly added "Nothing... at our time scale". Why do people always forget part of what you say when replying or disagreeing or debating?

Anyway at our time scale the universe does absolutely nothing. For something to happen in the universe millions of years must pass. Try to see a star move away from where you see it today. It does move but by the time it does, you'll be so long dead and forgotten, your entire civilization may be too.

So at our scale, the universe does nothing, it just stands there, big and static and that's all. So I decided I don't like the universe and in accordance with the topic of this thread: I will not thank the universe for its laziness (as perceived at our time scale).

No one's ignoring what you said, it was a legitimate question either way. Alright, a star moving takes millions or billions of years, but it only takes a couple minutes for each post to be written in this discussion we're having. What exactly makes one thing more relevant than other - why is our discussion nothing, but the star moving is "something"? I suppose you could say the movement of the stars affects more things, and I guess that'd be true, but... so, what?

What difference would it make if there was a star that could move fast enough for us to notice? If it was too far, you wouldn't even know. If it was too close, we'd all die. And somewhere in between, well, I guess you'd get a weird looking moving star in the night sky. Wow, a life changing experience.

So, in other words, you have an issue of perceiving everything as irrelevant. You have a notion that relevant stuff happens in a different time-scale, but for that different time-scale the movement of the star is just as relevant as the movement of the fan you turn on on hot summer nights. Relevance is a human concept, the universe doesn't care about it. Life isn't about what is or isn't relevant, it's about learning to enjoy stuff regardless of how important it may seem.



Immersiveunreality said:
Buuuut it is not static as it is in constant movement and also at our time scale,we ourselves and anything in this Milky Way is moving extremely fast around the Black hole in the center,thank the hole! :pYou do not need to see it for it to exist.

Well since we are far away from the big black hole at the center of our galaxy, we are not actually moving very fast as its attraction is weak over here.

But stars orbiting close to the hole move much faster, true!

However I do not know if they move fast enough to be visible with the naked eye (should we be close enough to see such a show). What I do know is we are too far to see it with our naked eyes, on top of all the galactic dust making it totally impossible to see it with our naked eyes and as if that was not enough, the black hole has this damning flaw: it is BLACK and therefore impossible to see with your eyes even without the galactic dust masking it.

So black holes are even stupider than the universe considering they DO SOMETHING but hide it from view, what's the point of doing something spectacular if you are going to hide? The universe does nothing but at least it does not try to hide. In conclusion I dislike black holes even more than I do the universe. The black hole at the center of the Milky Way is lucky to be so far away so he can't hear me but I would totally tell it to its face, how stupid it is to do stuff and hide it at the same time. He'll definitely NEVER have a "thank you" from me!



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CrazyGamer2017 said:
Immersiveunreality said:
Buuuut it is not static as it is in constant movement and also at our time scale,we ourselves and anything in this Milky Way is moving extremely fast around the Black hole in the center,thank the hole! :pYou do not need to see it for it to exist.

Well since we are far away from the big black hole at the center of our galaxy, we are not actually moving very fast as its attraction is weak over here.

But stars orbiting close to the hole move much faster, true!

However I do not know if they move fast enough to be visible with the naked eye (should we be close enough to see such a show). What I do know is we are too far to see it with our naked eyes, on top of all the galactic dust making it totally impossible to see it with our naked eyes and as if that was not enough, the black hole has this damning flaw: it is BLACK and therefore impossible to see with your eyes even without the galactic dust masking it.

So black holes are even stupider than the universe considering they DO SOMETHING but hide it from view, what's the point of doing something spectacular if you are going to hide? The universe does nothing but at least it does not try to hide. In conclusion I dislike black holes even more than I do the universe. The black hole at the center of the Milky Way is lucky to be so far away so he can't hear me but I would totally tell it to its face, how stupid it is to do stuff and hide it at the same time. He'll definitely NEVER have a "thank you" from me!

We and the stars surrounding us move at a rate of 828 000 km/hr,the thing is that you see everything very much from your own perspective but i'm liking your fun posts.

Second bolded: lol, black hole in distance tearing up rn :(

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mZuzek said:
No one's ignoring what you said, it was a legitimate question either way. Alright, a star moving takes millions or billions of years, but it only takes a couple minutes for each post to be written in this discussion we're having. What exactly makes one thing more relevant than other - why is our discussion nothing, but the star moving is "something"? I suppose you could say the movement of the stars affects more things, and I guess that'd be true, but... so, what?What difference would it make if there was a star that could move fast enough for us to notice? If it was too far, you wouldn't even know. If it was too close, we'd all die. And somewhere in between, well, I guess you'd get a weird looking moving star in the night sky. Wow, a life changing experience.So, in other words, you have an issue of perceiving everything as irrelevant. You have a notion that relevant stuff happens in a different time-scale, but for that different time-scale the movement of the star is just as relevant as the movement of the fan you turn on on hot summer nights. Relevance is a human concept, the universe doesn't care about it. Life isn't about what is or isn't relevant, it's about learning to enjoy stuff regardless of how important it may seem.

I see what you mean. However my reasoning is that the universe created me, yet it made me at a time scale that cannot interact with its time scale. The universe created me, I did not create the universe, therefore the discrepancy is the universe's fault, not mine.

My notion of what is relevant or not is not better or truer than yours or the universe's of course but since I am a product of the universe, since my consciousness is a product of the universe and since my subjective perception is a product of the universe, I don't understand why the universe made me see and perceive at a scale that is totally off compared to it.

At the end of the day, it's like you said: The universe does not care about human concepts. Fair (and true) enough, so I'll return this question: Why should I care for the universe? The answer is I don't and that explains my consideration of the universe and its worth.



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