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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 23 November 2019

zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

The thing is, by the time it's viable for Switch Pro to outdo the PS4 with reasonable pricing, they'd be better off just waiting a year or two more and releasing a full-blown successor with a generational leap in power over the original Switch.

I really dont get the obsession with a Switch Pro, a Switch model that surpasses PS4 at $299 just isnt feasible until the successor comes out.

They could have given Switch a performance boost with the Mariko chip but chose to go with better battery life instead.

Yeah, minor adjustments and  minor upgrades. 



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Going by the claims of BF's performance with Switch being significantly up yoy next weeks focus will be on Switch and X1 for most part as one closes or possibly passes the other next week.



p0isonparadise said:
https://twitter.com/BenjiSales/status/1200609249543385088?s=20

https://twitter.com/BenjiSales/status/1200613070869016576?s=20

o boy...



So correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to hit Nintendo's 18 million forecast, Switch needs to sell 52.74 million by the end of March 2020, right?
8.74 m in the next 4 and a bit months, basically?



trunkswd said:

Nintendo Switch Outsells Xbox One in Europe

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The Nintendo Switch has outsold the sales of the Xbox One in Europe, according to our estimates.

The Nintendo Switch sold 179,797 units for the week ending November 23, 2019 to bring its lifetime sales to 11.36 million units in Europe. This compares to the Xbox One with sales of 11.21 million units. 

The Switch launched in Europe three years and four months (nearly 1,200 days) after the Xbox One. The Switch launched in Europe on March 3, 2017, while the Xbox One launched on November 22, 2013. 

Nintendo's hybrid console is also on the verge of outselling the worldwide sales of the Xbox One. The Xbox One has sold 44.02 million units through November 23, 2019, while the Switch has sold 43.00 million units.

With the drop in sales year-over-year for the Xbox One and the increase in sales year-over-year for the Switch, the Switch will surpass the sales of the Xbox One in the next two weeks of hardware sales reports. 

I feel like a milestone like this deserves its own thread.



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curl-6 said:
So correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to hit Nintendo's 18 million forecast, Switch needs to sell 52.74 million by the end of March 2020, right?
8.74 m in the next 4 and a bit months, basically?

Using the forecast it would be wiser to use the actual shipment numbers provided by Nintendo I think. With that in mind:

For Nintendo to hit it's goal of 18M shipped over the year, they need to ship 11.07M over the last 2 quarters of the Fiscal year, last FY over the same period they shipped 11.89M. And it would be very very surprising if it didnt hit that number with ease. 

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RolStoppable said:
curl-6 said:
So correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to hit Nintendo's 18 million forecast, Switch needs to sell 52.74 million by the end of March 2020, right?
8.74 m in the next 4 and a bit months, basically?

That's wrong on a couple of levels.

Firstly, 52.74m minus the 43.0m from the VGC frontpage is a difference of 9.74m, not 8.74m.

Secondly, and this is more important, Nintendo forecasts shipments while VGC tracks sell-through. Switch needs to reach 52.74m in LTD shipments by March 2020 for Nintendo to meet their forecast of 18m for the fiscal year. The gap between shipments and sell-through for a successful console is commonly ~2m, so LTD sell-through by the end of March 2020 has to get in the area of 50.7m units. Switch needs to sell-through ~7.7m in the next four months and a week.

2018's final five weeks are at ~5.6m on VGC, but in 2018 Black Friday occured before the aforementioned period, meaning that 2019 has a significant advantage in the fifth to last week of the year because Black Friday occurs during that week in 2019. There's no Super Smash Bros. Ultimate in this year's December, but there's the Switch Lite. For argument's sake, let's just say Switch is flat and sells 5.6m more by the end of December. The first 13 weeks of 2019 (January to March) were 2.7m, so if Switch is flat during that period too, we get a total of 8.3m, above the 7.7m that Switch needs for Nintendo's forecast.

Another ace in the sleeve is Animal Crossing releasing at the very end of the fiscal year which should provide a significant hardware boost to launch date. I think we might see another Lite SKU releasing.



trunkswd said:
Mbolibombo said:

Another ace in the sleeve is Animal Crossing releasing at the very end of the fiscal year which should provide a significant hardware boost to launch date. I think we might see another Lite SKU releasing.

Switch Lite Animal Crossing Edition would sell a fair amount. The series is popular, but isn't on the level of Pokemon, Mario or Zelda. 

To be fair, how many franchises are on the level of Mario and Pokemon? Clearly it's not going to sell on the level of a mainline Pokemon or 2D Mario and that's no shame. 

But I do feel you are underestimating the impact of a brand new Animal Crossing - It's a series with three entries surpassing 10M in sales, nothing neither 3D Mario nor Zelda has managed. It's a franchise with the same sales potential as both 3D Mario or Zelda has. I'm not sure saying it would sell a fair amount is doing it justice :P

It's a major game and will push hardware.



Honestly the franchise really gained in popularity with Smash, the smartphone game and just people paying more attention to Nintendo's IP in general now. I'm sure it can manage to sell 15 millions +, the amount time it is trending on Twitter for no reason, the casual gamers are ready to eat that thing up.
I mean, i really hope they start doing more special edition Switch, and Animal Crossing is really the perfect game for that.



trunkswd said:
Mbolibombo said:

Another ace in the sleeve is Animal Crossing releasing at the very end of the fiscal year which should provide a significant hardware boost to launch date. I think we might see another Lite SKU releasing.

Switch Lite Animal Crossing Edition would sell a fair amount. The series is popular, but isn't on the level of Pokemon, Mario or Zelda. 

Sure it is, Animal Crossing on DS & 3DS both sold ~12 million, significantly more than any Zelda game excluding BotW.



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