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Where can I find the weekly hardware charts nowdays?
The usual place they where, the charts section, only goes until the end of 2018 as far as I can see.



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curl-6 said:
Amnesia said:

The Switch could reach this (Wii + DS) next year if there is a Switch Pro.

I really don't think so; those demanding a Pro are vocal internet minority. The average consumer is fine with Switch's current power level.

What would be the point anyway? A Switch Pro released in 2020 would still be weaker than PS4 and still a generation behind PS5/Scarlett.

Agreed. 2020 is also a tad early....a lot of people are investing on the Switch now and the regular model remains a pricy investment (mine with a game and carrying case cost me about 400 dollars) consumers wouldn't be too happy to see their investment replaced that quickly.

As you stated the matter of power is an issue...how much power can they fit in the device while maintaining the same price point even if they can somehow squeeze PS4 like specs into the machine...it would still be a meager upgrade by comparison in relation to the next wave of consoles.

I say late 21/early 22 before we see something on that front. It won't be as powerful ...or nearly as powerful as a PS5 but perhaps they can deliver something along or a bit further along than the base PS4 and thus justify the update.



curl-6 said:
Amnesia said:

The Switch could reach this (Wii + DS) next year if there is a Switch Pro.

I really don't think so; those demanding a Pro are vocal internet minority. The average consumer is fine with Switch's current power level.

What would be the point anyway? A Switch Pro released in 2020 would still be weaker than PS4 and still a generation behind PS5/Scarlett.

To add on this, one of the biggest gripes people had with the Switch at launch was it's short battery life, a problem that would come up for sure again with a more powerful "pro" model.

That being said, I do expect a more powerful version of the Switch to come out some day, just probably not next year already (I think in 2021, since the NVidia Shield seems to get upgraded every 2 years). And NVidia could also make use of that Chip: Both the original X1 as well as the newly upgraded version (Mariko) are being used in their Shield TV devices. So getting a more modern and powerful Tegra chip for both devices would be a win for both companies.

As to what I would expect from the device would be roughly about twice the performance and twice the RAM, thus more or less equalizing the XBO in performance. However, like the Pro and the X, that model would be more expensive and thus only have a limited impact on sales, nothing like Wii+DS taken together...



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TruckOSaurus said:
Look at all these trolls calling the XBox One "sad"!

Yeah, Microsoft is full of trolls, poor XBO.



For Switch revision, i don't think they will get as crazy as they were with the 3DS but we will for sure see at least 1 new model and not too far from now imo. They went all in for the 3DS family since they had to save the numbers from dropping too low to distract investors from looking at the Wii U numbers. I mean, they even released a "new" switch with longer battery life and some other stuff with very little communication about it. If this was for the 3DS, they would have literally made that 2-3+ hour battery life aspect into a damn new model with so much press to make it popular again. I was really surprised when that switch was "announced" out of nowhere, but still managed to give it a nice little boost during a usually dead summer season with as low of press it had.

So we clearly see from that Nintendo doesn't really care or need to release something more powerful for now since if they had plan of releasing a Switch Pro soon, they probably would have kept that longer battery life argument for the press of this model and i don't see them making a new model just advertising power since not much of the Switch needs a revision tbh. So in my opinion, i see them releasing something at the end of summer 2021. Not too early to let them reduce the production cost and not make it too high for this new model and long enough to be efficient to push it's lifespan longer. I believe the Switch will get a price cut next year but again we keep saying that every year since 2017 cause we all thought it was too expensive during the January presentation and there we are, almost entering it's FOURTH YEAR and still we BARELY got even Black friday deals. Like really though the same deal as last year : same price but with a mario kart 8 port bundled that's absolute madness and yet it will be really competitive even with the lite model. But really tho next year we will probably see it happen to be more competitive towards the new consoles which is also why i think they waited that long to do it. But as Switch coexisted with the PS4 and didn't really affect it's sales, i don't see the new gen affecting the Switch either.

Also, i think y'all really underestimate the power of a Switch pro model even if it's main factor would be power, people love the switch so much and spend so much money on it it's actually crazy the amount of accessories and games that sells on it, i wouldn't be surprised many would not hesitate to buy a new model to play their favorite games like Zelda with no framerate issue, faster loading time and a bit better visually. They did it with the 3DS and it was really popular with the PS4 and Xbox one family so they will clearly do it and on top of that, with 1 system they will definitely want to make it last longer.



SammyGiireal said:
curl-6 said:

I really don't think so; those demanding a Pro are vocal internet minority. The average consumer is fine with Switch's current power level.

What would be the point anyway? A Switch Pro released in 2020 would still be weaker than PS4 and still a generation behind PS5/Scarlett.

Agreed. 2020 is also a tad early....a lot of people are investing on the Switch now and the regular model remains a pricy investment (mine with a game and carrying case cost me about 400 dollars) consumers wouldn't be too happy to see their investment replaced that quickly.

As you stated the matter of power is an issue...how much power can they fit in the device while maintaining the same price point even if they can somehow squeeze PS4 like specs into the machine...it would still be a meager upgrade by comparison in relation to the next wave of consoles.

I say late 21/early 22 before we see something on that front. It won't be as powerful ...or nearly as powerful as a PS5 but perhaps they can deliver something along or a bit further along than the base PS4 and thus justify the update.

The thing is, by the time it's viable for Switch Pro to outdo the PS4 with reasonable pricing, they'd be better off just waiting a year or two more and releasing a full-blown successor with a generational leap in power over the original Switch.



curl-6 said:
SammyGiireal said:

Agreed. 2020 is also a tad early....a lot of people are investing on the Switch now and the regular model remains a pricy investment (mine with a game and carrying case cost me about 400 dollars) consumers wouldn't be too happy to see their investment replaced that quickly.

As you stated the matter of power is an issue...how much power can they fit in the device while maintaining the same price point even if they can somehow squeeze PS4 like specs into the machine...it would still be a meager upgrade by comparison in relation to the next wave of consoles.

I say late 21/early 22 before we see something on that front. It won't be as powerful ...or nearly as powerful as a PS5 but perhaps they can deliver something along or a bit further along than the base PS4 and thus justify the update.

The thing is, by the time it's viable for Switch Pro to outdo the PS4 with reasonable pricing, they'd be better off just waiting a year or two more and releasing a full-blown successor with a generational leap in power over the original Switch.

I really dont get the obsession with a Switch Pro, a Switch model that surpasses PS4 at $299 just isnt feasible until the successor comes out.

They could have given Switch a performance boost with the Mariko chip but chose to go with better battery life instead.



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zorg1000 said:
curl-6 said:

The thing is, by the time it's viable for Switch Pro to outdo the PS4 with reasonable pricing, they'd be better off just waiting a year or two more and releasing a full-blown successor with a generational leap in power over the original Switch.

I really dont get the obsession with a Switch Pro, a Switch model that surpasses PS4 at $299 just isnt feasible until the successor comes out.

They could have given Switch a performance boost with the Mariko chip but chose to go with better battery life instead.

Yeah there is just no point in my opinion. Just wait til 2023 and do a proper generational successor.

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