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KLXVER said:
Azzanation said:

You don't see the double standards?

No, I don't. Just like someone sees a trailer for a movie and likes it and then sees a trailer of a movie they don't like. Are they being unfair to one of the movies then?

Its pretty obvious, To say one game looks like complete garbage and say the other game looks gorgeous, considering they both opt for the same thing is what sounds weird to me. Basically, its like looking at two identical picture frames and saying one looks like crap and the other looks amazing. Its basically the comparison I am making here.

If Battletoads looks like something from Newgrounds or some cheap Indy phone game than same can be said for Cuphead. But no one will bash Cuphead's art style. Like I said in my pic comparison. Its the community in a nutshell. It says a lot about the people in here. Double standards is huge.



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Azzanation said:
KLXVER said:

No, I don't. Just like someone sees a trailer for a movie and likes it and then sees a trailer of a movie they don't like. Are they being unfair to one of the movies then?

Its pretty obvious, To say one game looks like complete garbage and say the other game looks gorgeous, considering they both opt for the same thing is what sounds weird to me. Basically, its like looking at two identical picture frames and saying one looks like crap and the other looks amazing. Its basically the comparison I am making here.

If Battletoads looks like something from Newgrounds or some cheap Indy phone game than same can be said for Cuphead. But no one will bash Cuphead's art style. Like I said in my pic comparison. Its the community in a nutshell. It says a lot about the people in here. Double standards is huge.

Well if you think Cuphead and Battletoads look the same, then we can drop this discussion right here. Ridiculous.



Azzanation said:

If Battletoads looks like something from Newgrounds or some cheap Indy phone game than same can be said for Cuphead. But no one will bash Cuphead's art style. Like I said in my pic comparison. Its the community in a nutshell. It says a lot about the people in here. Double standards is huge.

Battletoads has the style of a 2010's cartoon, Cuphead has the style of a 1940's cartoon. They are not close to the same. But even if they were exactly the same it doesn't matter. One art style may be good for one game while not for another. Battletoads isn't a new series so a change in art style can always be abrasive.

Horizon Chase Turbo is great and I like the art style, that doesn't mean I want The Crew or Need For Speed to look like it. That's not double standards.



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Azzanation said:
KLXVER said:

No, I don't. Just like someone sees a trailer for a movie and likes it and then sees a trailer of a movie they don't like. Are they being unfair to one of the movies then?

Its pretty obvious, To say one game looks like complete garbage and say the other game looks gorgeous, considering they both opt for the same thing is what sounds weird to me. Basically, its like looking at two identical picture frames and saying one looks like crap and the other looks amazing. Its basically the comparison I am making here.

If Battletoads looks like something from Newgrounds or some cheap Indy phone game than same can be said for Cuphead. But no one will bash Cuphead's art style. Like I said in my pic comparison. Its the community in a nutshell. It says a lot about the people in here. Double standards is huge.

First of all, apart from both being cartoony Battletoads and Cuphead don't look anything alike. Also, even if the game had the exact same artstyle as Cuphead I'd still say it looks like a generic beat'em up with close to no platforming elements which are what I like so much about the NES game.



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Azzanation said:
KLXVER said:

No, I don't. Just like someone sees a trailer for a movie and likes it and then sees a trailer of a movie they don't like. Are they being unfair to one of the movies then?

Its pretty obvious, To say one game looks like complete garbage and say the other game looks gorgeous, considering they both opt for the same thing is what sounds weird to me. Basically, its like looking at two identical picture frames and saying one looks like crap and the other looks amazing. Its basically the comparison I am making here.

If Battletoads looks like something from Newgrounds or some cheap Indy phone game than same can be said for Cuphead. But no one will bash Cuphead's art style. Like I said in my pic comparison. Its the community in a nutshell. It says a lot about the people in here. Double standards is huge.

No it really cant...

Cuphead emolates the retro cartoon feeling and pulls it off amazingly.
plus its gameplay works as it is.

Battletoads looks like a cheap flash game.... and the gameplay looks "off" to say it mildly, it doesnt even feel like a battletoads game.

Its a "night & day" differnce between the two.
You might think they both are aiming for the same thing, but the differnce is how well they pull it off then.

Like theres clearly a massive quality differnce between the two.
Battletoads did not get anywhere near the Tender love & care (tlc) of Cuphead.... and it shows.



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I've held off on commenting until now.

The game may look bad. It may even be bad--but I thought the same thing of Bayonetta back when. I even made a thread about how terrible it looked. Turned out to be one of my all time favorite games.



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Azzanation said:
JWeinCom said:

I don't know if English is not your first language or if you just don't understand the colloquial usage of the word look.  "Looks" is frequently used as a shorthand for "Based on what I see, I anticipate it will be".

If I say "looks like rain"  I am saying "based on what I can observe I think there will be rain".  I am not saying that the sky literally looks like rain.  If my waiter brings me a steak and I say "oh that looks delicious", I am almost certainly not saying that the steak literally looks delicious, since it is impossible for something to somehow visually be delicious (unless you have synesthesia or something).  I almost certainly mean to say "based on what I can observe, I anticipate the steak will be delicious".  If I see a trailer of a movie and I say "looks boring", I am almost certainly not saying that the visuals of the movie are boring.  I am almost certainly saying "based on that trailer I anticipate the final product will be boring."  And when someone says "looks god awful" they are almost certainly saying "based on what I can tell, I anticipate this game will suck ass."

Wiki:  Look

"To look is to use sight to perceive an object."

So how does looking at something make you feel something? 

Basic stimulus response.  My dog sees a petco bag.  He has experience with these bags and knows that in the past, petco bags have generally contained toys for him.  So when he sees the bag, he feels excited.  

Since I was kind enough to answer your question, kindly answer this one.  Are you aware that words have multiple usages?



pokoko said:
Zoombael said:

Mh, what could fans of a franchise expect from a new entry? To be faithful in art and style to the originals? 

Btw. The original games. There was more than one.

Unless you're telling me that all the games came out on the same exact day, there is always an original game.  

Original games as in what made the Battletoads franchise what it is (or was), drawing a destinction between then and now. Also "original games" as in, why reducing Battletoads to one game? You say the original wasn't very good, but what about Battletoads Battlemaniacs and Arcade? The "baseline" is definitely bigger than one "original game".



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People comparing battletoads with cuphead should get a sight check, battletoads looks like a cheap 2d game while cuphead is probably the best looking 2d game ever made, also the old battletoads games got many ports and spinoffs, but the original arcade game remains one of the best arcade beat em ups ever, the sprite work and animations were among the best of the time, also playing with 4 people is really fun.



Zoombael said:
pokoko said:

Unless you're telling me that all the games came out on the same exact day, there is always an original game.  

Original games as in what made the Battletoads franchise what it is (or was), drawing a destinction between then and now. Also "original games" as in, why reducing Battletoads to one game? You say the original wasn't very good, but what about Battletoads Battlemaniacs and Arcade? The "baseline" is definitely bigger than one "original game".

Are you being pedantic on purpose?  We're talking about a series where the first game is by far the best known and upon which everything else is based.  Even one of the games you mentioned is basically a remake and the other was a bomb that almost no one played.  The original game is the baseline for the franchise, like it or not.