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Sony- PSVita.
MS- OG Xbox
Nintendo- N64



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Ps2 - Crushed my favorite console ever, the GameCube.
Xbox original - horribly clunky controller
N 64 - Awkward controller.



Rafie said:

Again...the machine runs MOST games at 1080p. Sir that's not a lie. I didn't say every game. Most games. So you making a list of games it doesn't was a wasted effort because I've already acknowledged that the PS4 doesn't run every single game at 1080p.

Now you're debating semantics about the Switch. I told you I don't have a problem with the Switch at all. I love it! However, the Switch is a console as well. Not just a handheld. So no it's still counted as a console like the PS4 and Xbox One. Let's not go trying to save it from criticism from a criteria (hardware power) you yourself have criticized the PS4 for. You said the PS4 is weak hardware wise. I said that the same criticisms should also go to the Xbox One and Switch. That's fair. You chose the strongest hardware of the 3 and said it was weak, but didn't extend that to the other 2. Now whatever you personally feel about the PS4 is your business. I'm talking about your claims about it being a PS3.5 and a one-trick-pony and all that jazz. I'm focusing more about the hardware claim against the other 2. The Switch doesn't get left out of the power discussion if you say the PS4 is weak. That's only fair. It would be the same as you saying the PS3 is weak and only puts out sub 720, but you don't say the same for the Wii. Having features doesn't have nothing to do with how strong the hardware is. Otherwise the PS4 would mirror the Xbox One fully.

I really doubt most games run at 1080p.  Most are not 1080p at 60fps.  That's specifically is the issue.  Sure, some games run 1080p, some games, run at lower resolutions, but locked at 60.  But they're not doing both.  Most games aren't doing both.  So the hardware is weak.  We've known this.  When I got my PS4, it was packed in with a game I'd played plenty of, on PS3.  The PS4 was also lacking features the PS3 had.  That is why it's on my list.

As for the Switch, it doesn't matter.  I can be biased towards the switch.  This isn't the Switch vs. PS4 vs. Xbox One.  This is Switch Vs. Wii U Vs Wii, and the rest of the Nintendo consoles, which none of which I've owned, because I never saw a reason to buy or spend time on any of them.  The only one that got a look from me was the Wii U...  until I saw someone playing it.  It was warioware.  Yeah, no....  But, this is PS4 vs. PS3, and Xbox One Vs. 360 Vs. Xbox (one) :P.

I like the switch for the hardware.  It's the best Nintendo console ever.  So of course it's not going to be on a list of the least like consoles of the big 3.  It doesn't fit.  It is literally 100% better than the Wii U, which also came out in this same generation.  No other company has recovered so much from a failure like that.  Though the only one to have failed so hard  to begin with was SEGA anyway.

The PS4 is a PS3.5.  There's nothing that it's doing that's new to the table.  Over the PS2, the PS3 gave us HDMI, multi-media functionality, blue tooth technology, seven-player support (shame it wasn't really taken advantage of).  PS4 just gave slightly better graphics, and reduced functionality, and forced people to pay for online services to play...  For no reason other than to line up Sony's pockets more.

About the PS3.  Tekken 6 runs sub 720p.  And that's a valid point  but the PS3 also plays PS1 and PS2 games.  Some of the good games that are in the PS4's library originated on PS3.  But, it also gets to be one of those things.  PS3 released in 2006.  It's 2013, and we still can't reach our target standard resolution for games?  The jump from 1080p to 3840p is greater than 720 to 1080.  So, for simplicity's sake, if the PS5 can't hit 1440p for every game at 60 FPS, that would be worse than the PS4's not hitting 1080p, and so much worse than the PS3 being sub 720 in a few games.  Yes.  But, we all know the PS5 will have ryzen in it, so it's saved.

And you're right having features doesn't have nothing to do with how strong the hardware it.  But it does have something to do with how strong the hardware is.  Doesn't the PS4 feature a better GPU over the Xbox One?  Not that it matters today.  You can get an Xbox One X, or even better, a PC, if you really want something nice.



Nintendo Wii U: It is kind of obsolete especially since the Switch has most of its exclusive library and is so much better.

PS1: While it had great games its hardware was no match for the N64.

Xbox One: It simply lacks that new killer IP its predecessors had.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

Pok87 said:
Wii - poor graphics
PS3 - first years was bad (high price, online, DualShock 2, exclusives)
Xbox One - weaker than ps4, few good exclusives games

I think you mean the Sixaxis the DualShock 2 was the default and only official controller for the PS2.



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Sony: Playstation 3 high launching price, launched with inferior Sixaxis controller since Sony that that rumble was last gen before fixing that mistake by releasing the DualShock 3, trophies didn't show up until later and most games that easily could have gotten a trophy patch later on never received one.
Micorsoft: Original X Box the duke controller was to big the console itself was also too big and bulgy had superior multi plat games but the overall game library still wasn't nearly as good as the PS2 plus it had zero JRPG's.
Nintendo: Wii don't like motion controls ended up having way too many shovel ware titles. Plus it was extremely under powered. N64 is close second for sticking with cartridges having a bad controller and a somewhat lackluster overall gaming library.



Burning Typhoon said:
Rafie said:

Again...the machine runs MOST games at 1080p. Sir that's not a lie. I didn't say every game. Most games. So you making a list of games it doesn't was a wasted effort because I've already acknowledged that the PS4 doesn't run every single game at 1080p.

Now you're debating semantics about the Switch. I told you I don't have a problem with the Switch at all. I love it! However, the Switch is a console as well. Not just a handheld. So no it's still counted as a console like the PS4 and Xbox One. Let's not go trying to save it from criticism from a criteria (hardware power) you yourself have criticized the PS4 for. You said the PS4 is weak hardware wise. I said that the same criticisms should also go to the Xbox One and Switch. That's fair. You chose the strongest hardware of the 3 and said it was weak, but didn't extend that to the other 2. Now whatever you personally feel about the PS4 is your business. I'm talking about your claims about it being a PS3.5 and a one-trick-pony and all that jazz. I'm focusing more about the hardware claim against the other 2. The Switch doesn't get left out of the power discussion if you say the PS4 is weak. That's only fair. It would be the same as you saying the PS3 is weak and only puts out sub 720, but you don't say the same for the Wii. Having features doesn't have nothing to do with how strong the hardware is. Otherwise the PS4 would mirror the Xbox One fully.

I really doubt most games run at 1080p.  Most are not 1080p at 60fps.  That's specifically is the issue.  Sure, some games run 1080p, some games, run at lower resolutions, but locked at 60.  But they're not doing both.  Most games aren't doing both.  So the hardware is weak.  We've known this.  When I got my PS4, it was packed in with a game I'd played plenty of, on PS3.  The PS4 was also lacking features the PS3 had.  That is why it's on my list.

As for the Switch, it doesn't matter.  I can be biased towards the switch.  This isn't the Switch vs. PS4 vs. Xbox One.  This is Switch Vs. Wii U Vs Wii, and the rest of the Nintendo consoles, which none of which I've owned, because I never saw a reason to buy or spend time on any of them.  The only one that got a look from me was the Wii U...  until I saw someone playing it.  It was warioware.  Yeah, no....  But, this is PS4 vs. PS3, and Xbox One Vs. 360 Vs. Xbox (one) :P.

I like the switch for the hardware.  It's the best Nintendo console ever.  So of course it's not going to be on a list of the least like consoles of the big 3.  It doesn't fit.  It is literally 100% better than the Wii U, which also came out in this same generation.  No other company has recovered so much from a failure like that.  Though the only one to have failed so hard  to begin with was SEGA anyway.

The PS4 is a PS3.5.  There's nothing that it's doing that's new to the table.  Over the PS2, the PS3 gave us HDMI, multi-media functionality, blue tooth technology, seven-player support (shame it wasn't really taken advantage of).  PS4 just gave slightly better graphics, and reduced functionality, and forced people to pay for online services to play...  For no reason other than to line up Sony's pockets more.

About the PS3.  Tekken 6 runs sub 720p.  And that's a valid point  but the PS3 also plays PS1 and PS2 games.  Some of the good games that are in the PS4's library originated on PS3.  But, it also gets to be one of those things.  PS3 released in 2006.  It's 2013, and we still can't reach our target standard resolution for games?  The jump from 1080p to 3840p is greater than 720 to 1080.  So, for simplicity's sake, if the PS5 can't hit 1440p for every game at 60 FPS, that would be worse than the PS4's not hitting 1080p, and so much worse than the PS3 being sub 720 in a few games.  Yes.  But, we all know the PS5 will have ryzen in it, so it's saved.

And you're right having features doesn't have nothing to do with how strong the hardware it.  But it does have something to do with how strong the hardware is.  Doesn't the PS4 feature a better GPU over the Xbox One?  Not that it matters today.  You can get an Xbox One X, or even better, a PC, if you really want something nice.

Well I debunked the whole PS4 runs games sub 1080p. Again, most games run at 1080p. Which is factual. No matter how tech heavy the game is. Please don't add the framerate bit because I never mentioned anything about framerate. You're kind of arguing yourself in circles here. I told you I'm not focused on anything about what the PS4 offers. That's totally your prerogative. I'm not into debating what you prefer. Different strokes for different folks. That's why when people here argue themselves to the ground with what one consoles does better than the other and why they prefer it, I just watch.

Anyway, while you've answered why you believed the PS4 is weak....you didn't answer why you think it's weak compared to the others you've listed. Then again, I guess you saying you're comparing it to the previous PS consoles and not the competition. So I guess you did answer it. That's pretty much all you had to say. You didn't have to go on about the other stuff. I told you how I felt about the Switch. I love it too. Which is why it's not on my list.

Just FYI, both Microsoft and Nintendo also have paid services. Not just Sony. You like what you like though. I respect your opinion at the end of the day. Thanks for keeping it civil.



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Rafie said:

Well I debunked the whole PS4 runs games sub 1080p. Again, most games run at 1080p. Which is factual. No matter how tech heavy the game is. Please don't add the framerate bit because I never mentioned anything about framerate. You're kind of arguing yourself in circles here. I told you I'm not focused on anything about what the PS4 offers. That's totally your prerogative. I'm not into debating what you prefer. Different strokes for different folks. That's why when people here argue themselves to the ground with what one consoles does better than the other and why they prefer it, I just watch.

Anyway, while you've answered why you believed the PS4 is weak....you didn't answer why you think it's weak compared to the others you've listed. Then again, I guess you saying you're comparing it to the previous PS consoles and not the competition. So I guess you did answer it. That's pretty much all you had to say. You didn't have to go on about the other stuff. I told you how I felt about the Switch. I love it too. Which is why it's not on my list.

Just FYI, both Microsoft and Nintendo also have paid services. Not just Sony. You like what you like though. I respect your opinion at the end of the day. Thanks for keeping it civil.

The PS4 isn't weak compared to the Xbox One.  That's like comparing two ugly girls to each other and asking which is better looking.  Like, it doesn't even matter. One being 2/10, and other other being a 2.2/10 doesn't mean the 2.2 is suddenly pretty.  It's still a PS4. 



MS - Original Xbox: This was when I was still pretty much exclusively Nintendo with a bit of PC and Sega so I'm probably a bit biased there, but even in hindsight the console never had many redeemable qualities to me. It's big and bulky, as is its original controller. There weren't a ton of games on it that interested me, especially in the exclusives department. And the Xbox line's coup de gras, XBL, had yet to be really fleshed out anyway. MS boasted having the most powerful console for the time, but the GameCube's power was actually somewhat comparable and the graphics were similar. 

Sony - PS3: Never much of a Sony fan in general but the PS3 is probably the height of the bombastic cinematic style of games which aren't typically my cup of tea. Not that it's a bad console, but most of its notable games for me I was able to play on Xbox 360 anyway. It also came with a rough pricetag for the majority of its life. 

Nintendo - Wii U: Console tried to hinge on the success of the Wii with the branding but its library contained a lot of obscure games that were more reminiscent of the GameCube library, many of which were just tough to get into. I was never fond of the bulky, cheap looking and feeling gamepad controller and the "miiverse" thing, which just made getting to your game unnecessarily long and cumbersome. It had very few games that interested me and most of the good ones are now on Switch in some form anyway.



Rafie said:
curl-6 said:

In the US sure, but there's a whole wide world outside the United States. The majority of the world's population and the console market is outside the US.

Sir I said the US. Quite a few times in my last statement. That was my point about popularity. Even when Koreans and Japanese played their fighting games...it was on the 360. The marketshare in the US is just as large as Japan. It's what helped the 360 beat the PS3 for many years. I'm not trying to a stand for the 360. I'm just pointing out that in one of the 3 largest gaming marketshares...the 360 was top dog. I'm well aware of the world's population being larger outside of the US. No need to take a silent jab at me there.

No jab was intended, my apologies if one was perceived. Yeah, 360 did come out on top in America last gen. But as has been an ongoing problem for the Xbox brand, that's about the only region where it can really challenge the competition, with both Wii and PS3 having a stronger presence in Europe, Japan, and the rest of the world.