zorg1000 said:
So is Virtual Boy a home console, handheld console or something entirely different? |
Id count it as a home console.
You couldnt put that on, and walk around with it, playing it.
Take it with you, and play on a bus/train ect = nope.
Its basically never leaveing your house = its a home console.
Barkley said:
And as I already explained:
Vita is 17.8% of the average, while Virtual Boy is just 1.23% of the average, making the Virtual Boy over 14 times more anomalous than the Vita. You have to draw the line somewhere, and I draw the line at 80x less than average, not 5.6x less than average. |
If anything PSP is more of an anomaly than Vita. PSP did about 5x as much as any non-Nintendo handheld ever.
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JRPGfan said:
Id count it as a home console. |
You also cant use it on a TV which kind of makes it not a home console either, its it's own seperate thing.
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zorg1000 said:
If anything PSP is more of an anomaly than Vita. PSP did about 5x as much as any non-Nintendo handheld ever. |
When your sample size is 2, anomaly isn't an appropriate descriptor or either of the two things being compared.
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zorg1000 said:
Cant be a handheld as it needs to be plugged in. Switch is both so it easily fits into the comparison. |
plugged in? in what? If you mean a power supply that could be solved by a battery. But anyway if you prefer call Virtua Boy a home console if you want it won't change the point.
Switch Lite is exclusively a HH, and as I and many others have said Switch was from the start a HH with capability to plug on TV with less hassle than PSP, PSVita or PSTV option of PSVita or the hassle to play through wifi to have PS4 games on PSVita.
Barkley said:
And as I already explained:
Vita is 17.8% of the average, while Virtual Boy is just 1.23% of the average, making the Virtual Boy over 14 times more anomalous than the Vita. You have to draw the line somewhere, and I draw the line at 80x less than average, not 5.6x less than average. |
But actually don't need to drawn the line here. You can very much make an average of how much all systems released sold, you can make a list of average on top 10, etc. But your list is very arbitrary, it counts every system released by the 3 manufacturer but a single one. You are drawing the line specifically to exclude it.
zorg1000 said:
If anything PSP is more of an anomaly than Vita. PSP did about 5x as much as any non-Nintendo handheld ever. |
But did in line with other Playstation platforms.
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DonFerrari said:
But actually don't need to drawn the line here. You can very much make an average of how much all systems released sold, you can make a list of average on top 10, etc. But your list is very arbitrary, it counts every system released by the 3 manufacturer but a single one. You are drawing the line specifically to exclude it. |
Yes, I'm drawing the line to specifically exclude a system that sold 80 times less than the average. If another system was remotely close to being that atypical I would have excluded more than one system. Regardless this discussion is going no where so I'll leave it there.
Barkley said:
And as I already explained:
Vita is 17.8% of the average, while Virtual Boy is just 1.23% of the average, making the Virtual Boy over 14 times more anomalous than the Vita. You have to draw the line somewhere, and I draw the line at 80x less than average, not 5.6x less than average. |
You're coming up with convoluted explanations to justify your bias. You say you have none, yet show it so clearly. If you are trying to come up with an average for ALL consoles sold, you need to include ALL consoles sold. You did it for Xbox and PS, to remain truly unbiased, the same must be done for Nintendo. You can't subtract the VB from Nintendo because it performed the worst out of all consoles counted because it drops Nintendo's average.
| DonFerrari said: But actually don't need to drawn the line here. You can very much make an average of how much all systems released sold, you can make a list of average on top 10, etc. But your list is very arbitrary, it counts every system released by the 3 manufacturer but a single one. You are drawing the line specifically to exclude it. |
But does it really matter though?
Barkley made it clear that this was just his way of finding an average. People are free to use another method.
RolStoppable said:
What difference does it really make? The ranking does not change whether the VB is included or not. If Barkley had something against Sony, he would point out that one low-selling console was enough for Sony to call it quits while both Nintendo and Microsoft continued their efforts in spite of failure(s). |
To be fair, the numbers change. That that rankings don't change is irrelevant. Without going back to look, I think this this was all about averages. I don't think thismeintiel ever thought anything but the averages would be different. Virtual Boy wasn't vaporware. It was a legitimate product, and it should be included in Nintendo's aggregate.
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