I suspect they're going to start to phase out the main Switch now and replace it next year with an improved model.

Improved one will probably remain at $300 while the Lite takes a modest price cut. $20 to $50 off. $180 seems like a good price point, but like not enough of a cut, while $150 seems like slightly too big a cut, so I'm going to split the difference and estimate $160 to $170 (maybe even right in the middle at $164.99) post-New Switch release.

The switch isn't a hybrid console because it's a handheld that shipped a dock in the box, which makes the difference between it and other handhelds pretty minuscule. What would it need to be a "hybrid console"? I'm not sure. I don't think the concept of a hybrid console actually exists outside of marketing speak. I wouldn't call a PS4 that shipped with a mini LCD screen and battery attachment a "hybrid console" either for what that's worth, nor would I call the PS4 a hybrid console if Sony released a handheld version that could be docked to a tv. It's very clear what the Switches primary design focus is, and it's not for TV mode.

Why are you now talking about games? You're shifting the goalposts. Your definition of a hybrid before literally had nothing to do with the games that were created for it, just the capabilities of the hardware. If we're going to talk about defining a hybrid console by the games that are made for it, then the definition is already horrifically flimsy. Assuming that no games were made to take advantage of those features, that doesn't change the fact that those features exist. And I already talked about how silly it is to discuss what's included in the initial console purchase to define a console's "hybridness".


That's a old quote from President Bowser, and was made before several of the Switch's handheld game franchises appeared on the Switch. I'd be interested to find out what the stats are today, or what the stats will be six months from now. Perhaps the introduction of the Switch Lite itself says that the play time has shifted dramatically towards handheld mode. Either way, those stats will change when they release a console that doesn't support tv mode at all.

I'd pick one up if it released in July or August but there are already too many games coming out in September or later that I wanna play.

I'm genuinely surprised at how many people to fail to understand that that 'Switch' is a brand name and not necessarily a descriptor.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they removed the ability to operate in "TV mode" considering they would have to design the Switch Lite to handle the additional power draw and dissipate the additional heat that operating mode would generate. The Switch Lite might not be capable of operating safely in "TV mode". Designing it in such a way would definitely save on costs.

So you can't come up with a single reason that the Switch isn't a valid home console, your only point is that it can do something extra that home consoles can't.

Your argument then is you don't think hybrid consoles can exist, you should have led with that. Meanwhile I shall ignore you and your agenda.

So...now it's as ugly as expected officially

You, sir, are mistaken. Most especially about the Pokemon edition.

Omg they finally announced it. Disappointing that it can't be docked (I like playing on my TV) and the screen looks like it was shrunk more than necessary. I guess I'm gonna have to wait for the "pro" version. Personally the Lite leaves a lot to be desired but I can see why they made the cuts to get it down to $199.

The person below, apparently...

I came up with several reasons why, you just don't like them.

And, what is my agenda?