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FF7Remake + Sony Exclusivity + Next Gen PS5 + Episodic Nature + Game Progress

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Heavenly_King said:
konnichiwa said:
That's why bc is great, other wise you get one episode on PS4 that you have to rebuy or in best case upgrade for a small amount to play it on PS5. I worry about => level caps in an episode and in general micro transactions. but I kind of hope they also do loyal fans upgrades. You played FFXV you get this weapon/skin..You played FFVII, you get this, Dragon quest XI/KHIII etc...

Considering how the consoles are working right now, with the PS4 copy of the game you would be able to play the PS5 version via patch.

Considering PS5 has bc or what is expected I don't worry :).






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AbbathTheGrim said:

B) Could this "episodes" work more as stand alone games that, once you finish them, all gained levels and inventory are gone and you start in episode 2 (for example) on level 1 all over again? How do you like that idea?

C) Maybe there are other examples out there of episodic games you think would be the best way to approach and continue progress between episodes? What would be the best approach?

D) Could there be a way to "load" your saved game from episode 1 to episode 2?

E) What is the best way for Square to address game progress between episodes? Would you care if progress is lost between episodes?

I think we should all prepare ourselves for the worst. 



I think that Sony only has timed exclusivity at best. The earlier trailers all said "First on PS4", but the latest was missing that, so they may have even lost the timed, after FFXV and KH3 performed pretty well on XB1. I think that the plan is for 3 episodes, the first will be a cross-gen release Holiday 2020 most likely, on PS4, XB1, PS5, and Xbox Scarlett. Episodes 2 and 3 will be next-gen only I suspect, they won't be releasing games on PS4/XB1 in like 2022-2024. I think I read that the plan is for each episode to be treated as a standalone game, with new side content being added to fill each episode out. There was talk of adding some content from spinoffs in the FF7 compilation as well.  



AbbathTheGrim said:
zero129 said:
Who said its Sony Exclusive?, This game will come to PC.

I recall reading something about this game coming to PC but after the trailer I looked for an updated confirmation but I found nothing.

Do you have any links where Square confirms a PC version is still in development?

No new links just common sense + the fact SE has now released every FF game on PC.

ha this reminds me of the good old days when people used to say that FFvsXIII wouldnt end up on anything but PS3, and i used to say just you wait and see it will be renamed FF15 and be multi plat.

and even after SE pretty much released the whole FF series on PC people where still like "It will never get the newer FF games such as FF15". When i pointed out how it would be stupid of them not to port FF15 to steam after releasing the rest of the series on it, people where like "Where is the proof?", "did SE Confirm FF15 is going to come to steam?, last i heard was tabata said he would like it on PC but nothing confirmed" and "Well even if they do port it it will take years, look how long it took for FF13 to reach steam" and i said the same thing then im saying now, Common sense is the conformation.

I expect this to be the same as FF15, concentrate on the PS4 version first once thats released a year later, Maybe sooner this time FF7remake will be on pc.



AbbathTheGrim said:

Yes, apart from the flashback gameplay in Kalm, Sephiroth first appears in the ship from Junon to Costa del Sol.

All those gameplay bits and details are important and I hope they don't scrap any of it.

If you see the trailer you realize there is not much of the game shown apart from some walking, fighting and cutscenes. They didn't show any of those things you mentioned which doesn't mean that they won't be present in the remake but that we can't state for a fact that they are there either.

Indeed but it is what I fear about the game, in exchange for 'coolness' and 'more Sephiroth' we'll lose the more intricate details of the story, gameplay and battle system. I hope for great thing but 3 games instead of 1 already ruins that.



Hmm, pie.

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How many Times they need to say its two or three full separed games like ff13? 10?20? 100?



 

I think people are making a mistake by saying "episodic" because they're thinking about a telltale game. SE said it's a multi-part game, and each part will be a full game. Just from that it sounds like a FFXIII 3 part trilogy, with each part having a different name.



deskpro2k3 said:
I think people are making a mistake by saying "episodic" because they're thinking about a telltale game. SE said it's a multi-part game, and each part will be a full game. Just from that it sounds like a FFXIII 3 part trilogy, with each part having a different name.

I don't think anyone is taking the word "episodic" and thinking it's the shorthand for Telltale games' Walking Dead structure.

Square Enix has clarified and specifically stated that they'll be "full size games". But to the skeptics defense - we have no idea what SE means by that or what it'll entail progress wise.

I HIGHLY doubt Square will implement a structure where you carry your save data over from previous "episodes". Bioware tried that, but it was a half baked idea and it didn't work... What will their contingency plan be if someone buys Episode 2 but never played the first?

These kinds of questions point to a potentially polarizing design philosophy that SE has in place that won't have OG FF7 players best interests - the people that got to play as a whole game....

Personally, I don't buy the reasoning for their "episodic" bullshit. If the size of the game they want to make is truly too big to fit on one disk/in one game (their words, not mine). THEN SPREAD IT ACROSS MULTIPLE DISCS LIKE YOU USED TO DO IN THE 90'S!!!!



TranceformerFX said:
deskpro2k3 said:
I think people are making a mistake by saying "episodic" because they're thinking about a telltale game. SE said it's a multi-part game, and each part will be a full game. Just from that it sounds like a FFXIII 3 part trilogy, with each part having a different name.

I don't think anyone is taking the word "episodic" and thinking it's the shorthand for Telltale games' Walking Dead structure.

Square Enix has clarified and specifically stated that they'll be "full size games". But to the skeptics defense - we have no idea what SE means by that or what it'll entail progress wise.

I HIGHLY doubt Square will implement a structure where you carry your save data over from previous "episodes". Bioware tried that, but it was a half baked idea and it didn't work... What will their contingency plan be if someone buys Episode 2 but never played the first?

These kinds of questions point to a potentially polarizing design philosophy that SE has in place that won't have OG FF7 players best interests - the people that got to play as a whole game....

Personally, I don't buy the reasoning for their "episodic" bullshit. If the size of the game they want to make is truly too big to fit on one disk/in one game (their words, not mine). THEN SPREAD IT ACROSS MULTIPLE DISCS LIKE YOU USED TO DO IN THE 90'S!!!!

They're doing it with FFXIV Online, which I think would be preferable, for example each FFXIV expansion is a full game, but you can't advance to the new one without having the prior expansion complete, because it's all one continuing story. And, yes everything is carried over.

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deskpro2k3 said:
TranceformerFX said:

I don't think anyone is taking the word "episodic" and thinking it's the shorthand for Telltale games' Walking Dead structure.

Square Enix has clarified and specifically stated that they'll be "full size games". But to the skeptics defense - we have no idea what SE means by that or what it'll entail progress wise.

I HIGHLY doubt Square will implement a structure where you carry your save data over from previous "episodes". Bioware tried that, but it was a half baked idea and it didn't work... What will their contingency plan be if someone buys Episode 2 but never played the first?

These kinds of questions point to a potentially polarizing design philosophy that SE has in place that won't have OG FF7 players best interests - the people that got to play as a whole game....

Personally, I don't buy the reasoning for their "episodic" bullshit. If the size of the game they want to make is truly too big to fit on one disk/in one game (their words, not mine). THEN SPREAD IT ACROSS MULTIPLE DISCS LIKE YOU USED TO DO IN THE 90'S!!!!

They're doing it with FFXIV Online, which I think would be preferable, for example each FFXIV expansion is a full game, but you can't advance to the new one without having the prior expansion complete, because it's all one continuing story. And, yes everything is carried over.

That would be a disastrous idea....