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DonFerrari said: 
HoangNhatAnh said:

Again, this is Japan, many 18 years old girls in Asia look like Marie Rose, especially in Viet Nam, China, Japan, North/South Korea. Koei Tecmo is from Japan, you know :))

In Japan is even common to have some hookers that are into their 30s dressing like elementary school and having their face looking very young, that is a fetiche they have. Still that don't harm any child. Pixel porn of girl that also look under 18 don't harm kids. And you can even trace who buy this type of material and see if they also go to other habits as buying real child porn or exploring teenagers sexually.

That's why there is no reason to censor it yet Sony still did it and their fans still defend them no matter what. They also forget 1 thing: Sony was from Japan 

twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

In AU/EU? So how about NA? Also, Omega Labyrinth Z was expected to release in the West in Spring 2018 but then it was delayed and publisher PQube announced that it's localization has been cancelled. Yeah, even in early 2018, but Sony is definitely innocent in this case/s

Spring 2018 is not a finalised release date, as in a specific date. The ESRB rating was not even published until towards the latter half of Spring.

And put your sarcasm aside because we have already established that Sony banned the game, so your comment is somewhat pointless.

Nevertheless, the Sony policy is to have the games censor content for release. This isn't what happened with OL2.

Yeah, so ban the game instead censoring it, right? No wonder why the next game is Switch only:

https://nintendoeverything.com/omega-labyrinth-life-announced-for-switch/

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twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, so ban the game instead censoring it, right? No wonder why the next game is Switch only:

https://nintendoeverything.com/omega-labyrinth-life-announced-for-switch/

Yes, correct, because their policy wasn't in effect hence why not the censoring route.

Good on them for finding another platform. That's the sensible thing to do i suppose.

Sure, if you said so, lol



o_O.Q said:
vivster said:
Welp, this will certainly lure out all the neckbeards making inappropriate comments and completely reaffirming Sony's decision. Isn't it nice how society works?

It will certainly an interesting subject to future scholars how the sexual liberation of the 20th century will be completely undone by the 21st century.

you missed the most relevant part - that the sexual revolution will be undone by feminists... you know... the people who are supposed to be advocating for the freedom of women?

"this will certainly lure out all the neckbeards"

what is a neckbeard?

Feminists aren't really the issue. It's all on society and the ridiculous sense of shame. Twitter storms of 1000 people are more important than what millions of silent people think. It's that society completely jumped on the PC bandwagon and circlejerked it to the ridiculous heights we have now. It's an infinite feedback loop like a drug. To get more social recognition you have to get more PC. It will be interesting at which point we will crash into the ceiling. My guess is porn. It's too big and too important.

Neckbeards is a derogatory term for mostly incel people on the internet who speak with self perceived intellectual authority on every topic and usually lean towards misogynism.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes it is true, still don't void right of people of complaining about it.

People have the right to complain about whatever they want to, that's our world.

Doesn't mean I don't think it's weird that people complain about a company not allowing sexual games featuring kids (underaged characters) on their platform.

teenagers aren't kid, and pixels aren't people.

twintail said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

In AU/EU? So how about NA? Also, Omega Labyrinth Z was expected to release in the West in Spring 2018 but then it was delayed and publisher PQube announced that it's localization has been cancelled. Yeah, even in early 2018, but Sony is definitely innocent in this case/s

Spring 2018 is not a finalised release date, as in a specific date. The ESRB rating was not even published until towards the latter half of Spring.

And put your sarcasm aside because we have already established that Sony banned the game, so your comment is somewhat pointless.

Nevertheless, the Sony policy is to have the games censor content for release. This isn't what happened with OL2.

DonFerrari said:

I have a daughter, thanks for your judgmental ignorance.

The country have low crime, including pedophilia. They do have a lot of fetiche for woman that look like teen, but they harm no child in doing that.

In Japan is even common to have some hookers that are into their 30s dressing like elementary school and having their face looking very young, that is a fetiche they have. Still that don't harm any child. Pixel porn of girl that also look under 18 don't harm kids. And you can even trace who buy this type of material and see if they also go to other habits as buying real child porn or exploring teenagers sexually.

This seems somewhat disingenuous. There have been reports of underage girls working in night clubs brothels etc. The creator of Kenshin was only given a sub $2000 fine for being in possession of child porn. Recently, a father who raped his own daughter twice, was found not guilty even though the court said that he did commit the sexual abuse.

Sex crimes related to minors happen in Japan. They just go undocumented for the most part. Also, crime is on the rise in the country. This is anecdotal but I am in contact with Japanese people every day and they all share the same opinion that Japan is not nearly as safe as non-Japanese make it out to be. But this does depend on where about you live in the country.

Have I claimed japan have no violence, rape or pedophilia? Nope, I claimed Japan have very low crime rate which include them. So the presence of these games aren't really what is harming kids in Japan or elsewhere.

One could even claim that is better that there are pixel porn with looks of under age people than real child porn, because people that like this type of material will go to get it, so the first one at least doesn't harm any child. Also as I said, PS is a closed environment so every purchase have an account and it certainly can be traced to a real person if police wants. So they can have all people that buy this material followed closely and arrest him as soon as he go a toe ahead of what is lawful.

HoangNhatAnh said:
DonFerrari said: 

In Japan is even common to have some hookers that are into their 30s dressing like elementary school and having their face looking very young, that is a fetiche they have. Still that don't harm any child. Pixel porn of girl that also look under 18 don't harm kids. And you can even trace who buy this type of material and see if they also go to other habits as buying real child porn or exploring teenagers sexually.

That's why there is no reason to censor it yet Sony still did it and their fans still defend them no matter what. They also forget 1 thing: Sony was from Japan 

twintail said:

Spring 2018 is not a finalised release date, as in a specific date. The ESRB rating was not even published until towards the latter half of Spring.

And put your sarcasm aside because we have already established that Sony banned the game, so your comment is somewhat pointless.

Nevertheless, the Sony policy is to have the games censor content for release. This isn't what happened with OL2.

Yeah, so ban the game instead censoring it, right? No wonder why the next game is Switch only:

https://nintendoeverything.com/omega-labyrinth-life-announced-for-switch/

Claiming moral high ground make it very easy for people to defend things.

vivster said:
o_O.Q said:

you missed the most relevant part - that the sexual revolution will be undone by feminists... you know... the people who are supposed to be advocating for the freedom of women?

"this will certainly lure out all the neckbeards"

what is a neckbeard?

Feminists aren't really the issue. It's all on society and the ridiculous sense of shame. Twitter storms of 1000 people are more important than what millions of silent people think. It's that society completely jumped on the PC bandwagon and circlejerked it to the ridiculous heights we have now. It's an infinite feedback loop like a drug. To get more social recognition you have to get more PC. It will be interesting at which point we will crash into the ceiling. My guess is porn. It's too big and too important.

Neckbeards is a derogatory term for mostly incel people on the internet who speak with self perceived intellectual authority on every topic and usually lean towards misogynism.

Well the "get woke go broke" is still true, it have happen to comics a lot of times, so depending on how much Sony decides to put under censorship that will certainly bite then on the but.



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Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

People have the right to complain about whatever they want to, that's our world.

Doesn't mean I don't think it's weird that people complain about a company not allowing sexual games featuring depictions of kids (underaged characters) on their platform.

teenagers aren't kid, and pixels aren't people.

Fixed it.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

teenagers aren't kid, and pixels aren't people.

Fixed it.

Makes no difference, pixels don't hurt people.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Fixed it.

Makes no difference, pixels don't hurt people.

Video game characters don't hurt people. All I said was defending the idea of depicting kids in sex games is weird, even though they're just video games. 

I'm just saying it's easy to see WHY Sony do not want games like that on their platform. They're not trying to get them removed from existence, they just don't want it on their systems and they're perfectly in their right to do so, same with the epic games store. Steam is a place these people can go to. 



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2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

Makes no difference, pixels don't hurt people.

Video game characters don't hurt people. All I said was defending the idea of depicting kids in sex games is weird, even though they're just video games. 

I'm just saying it's easy to see WHY Sony do not want games like that on their platform. They're not trying to get them removed from existence, they just don't want it on their systems and they're perfectly in their right to do so, same with the epic games store. Steam is a place these people can go to. 

For me it is more than weird, but their removal doesn't really benefit anyone.

And the problem on this for me is that Sony is doing it out of external pressure and fear of #metoo movement and gamergate. They are basically bending over and taking something that is acceptable in Japan to please non-gamer on the west.

These games sell very little.

Also it worries some people that this could lead to more censorship, like some games that Sony was already not allowing release overseas, some censor in ports like happened to Yakuza series.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Video game characters don't hurt people. All I said was defending the idea of depicting kids in sex games is weird, even though they're just video games. 

I'm just saying it's easy to see WHY Sony do not want games like that on their platform. They're not trying to get them removed from existence, they just don't want it on their systems and they're perfectly in their right to do so, same with the epic games store. Steam is a place these people can go to. 

For me it is more than weird, but their removal doesn't really benefit anyone.

And the problem on this for me is that Sony is doing it out of external pressure and fear of #metoo movement and gamergate. They are basically bending over and taking something that is acceptable in Japan to please non-gamer on the west.

These games sell very little.

Also it worries some people that this could lead to more censorship, like some games that Sony was already not allowing release overseas, some censor in ports like happened to Yakuza series.

I really couldn't care why they're doing it. Also I've not seen some big push from these movements to go after these games. It's more so just normal people saying 'what the fuck is this shit'. 

This has always and is still happening. Mortal Kombat 11 is acceptable in the West yet is being blocked in Japan. There has always been blocks between different countries of different media. It sucks but this isn't something that's going to lead to more censorship it's always been happening, this is just 1 case that for some reason people have jumped on to attack.



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2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

ArchangelMadzz said:
DonFerrari said:

For me it is more than weird, but their removal doesn't really benefit anyone.

And the problem on this for me is that Sony is doing it out of external pressure and fear of #metoo movement and gamergate. They are basically bending over and taking something that is acceptable in Japan to please non-gamer on the west.

These games sell very little.

Also it worries some people that this could lead to more censorship, like some games that Sony was already not allowing release overseas, some censor in ports like happened to Yakuza series.

I really couldn't care why they're doing it. Also I've not seen some big push from these movements to go after these games. It's more so just normal people saying 'what the fuck is this shit'. 

This has always and is still happening. Mortal Kombat 11 is acceptable in the West yet is being blocked in Japan. There has always been blocks between different countries of different media. It sucks but this isn't something that's going to lead to more censorship it's always been happening, this is just 1 case that for some reason people have jumped on to attack.

There is a difference between not releasing something on a market they would get lawsuit (as some of these games don't get released in some markets because it would be illegal) to abolish that content from the platform worldwide. Their PR itself show they are doing it because of these movements.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."