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Forums - General Discussion - GoT season 8 final episode 6 tonight. (spoiler discussion) Fin. The end... for ever. D&D can burn in the seven hells.

 

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Hiku said:
KiigelHeart said:

Interesting.. I don't know why at any point you thought this show is taking the "lesson learnt" route. Jon destroying the throne would be the most obvious ending and that's what I'd expect if GoT was like any other show. It would also be a bit lame considering it would be naive to think destroying the throne would lead to 7 Kingdoms to rule in autonomy.

Anyway, I'll get back to this thread after the finale. 

So how do you feel about GOT being like any other show now?

Drogon destroyed the throne, and they started a more democratic system where rulers are chosen. And one of the Kingdoms already left to rule autonomously, opening up the possibility for more to do the same in the future.

It's pretty much the direction I expected them to go with.

And didn't you think that Jon killing Dany was perhaps the most obvious 'plot twist' in the history of the series?
I think everyone saw that coming a mile away. Tyrion even spelled it out for us.

I don't have a problem with obvious story outcomes if they make sense, but because of how this season was so rushed, the scene lacked the emotional impact it could have had because they didn't even bother trying to make sense of Daenerys actions.

Emilia also added that she expected her story to end this way. As many people did. But it's how they got there that's the problem. 

The attempt at justifying her actions in Epi 6 was ridiculous. Cercei forced her because she used them as a weakness? No, all she had to do was attack the Red Keep. She did not have to target innocent people instead of going after Cercei.

And remember that Dan & David wanted 7 seasons, but had to be dragged kicking and screaming to agree to 8. How would they have set this up in 7 seasons? Dany ordering a baby from Amazon, and stabbing it on her desk in front of Jon?

I did write some of my thoughts after watching the episode. I stated my surprise they took the "lesson learnt" route and went with such a happy ending. So yeah, it was like any other show and not in style of GoT. Or at least how I saw GoT. 

I expected and wanted more bitterness tbh but overall it left a happy feeling how things turned out. It sucks a bit they rushed the Dany&Jon romance so Jon killing Dany wasn't emotional at all. And it wasn't surprising.. It might have helped a bit if Dany wasn't suddenly wearing that Edward Scrissorhands outfit, but basically they needed 4-5 more episodes. Emilia & Kit did all they could.

Everyone probably noticed it was the most jarring episode ever. Cut was so weak. I checked and it was directed by D&D. I don't know why they wanted to do it because other directors did a great job imo despite having to rush the thing. Whole season was full of amazing shots & cinematic stuff. Sometimes at the expense of making sense (Dothraki charging into darkness with flaming swords for example) but that's ok.

Anyway, it wasn't the finale I expected it to be and it highlighted how quickly they wrapped it up but it left me feeling good about The series. Me and my wife wanted to watch the whole thing again asap and are now 6 episodes in first season. Amazing series!



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Yea that actress that played her went through a lot. I heard in an interview she almost died after first season or two in real life. She kept having brain hemorrhaging and had to have 2 surgerys. Would be a shame for such a fine piece of ass to die so young.



Hiku said:

Goerge RR Martin is attacking Dan & David over Game of Thrones being rushed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2jSrbiTjhs

George: "I don't know [why it's ending]. "Ask David and Dan... we could have gone to 11, 12, 13 seasons, but I guess they wanted a life."

The 'wanted a life' is a reference to something Dan & David said before, about how they were tired of working on Game of Thrones for so long essentially, because it takes up so much of their time, and they 'want a life'.

Well thanks for not handing over the reins of the series to someone else then, dipshits.

For anyone blaming HBO over how short Game of Thrones became, there you go.
Dumb & Dumber insisted on only doing 7 seasons. George wanted them to do 10. Eventually they agreed on 8.
And they're planning 5 spinoffs. The reason it was so short is entirety on D&D.

These two don't care. They just want to get paid and move on to Star Wars.
Can't wait to see Jar Jar Binks appear out of nowhere and kill Palpatine.

Can you imagine how much worse this train wreck would have been if they got they had stuck to 7 seasons?

Just a thought about this. I mentioned in my other post I think they only needed 4-5 more episodes to add enough depth to story and make it less jarring. Not sure if dragging the thing for 2-4 more seasons would've been good. If it's even that easy to keep all the cast etc commited to the show. I'd imagine they'd want to move on with their careers when GoT is at it's peak.

Few more episodes to build up Dany&Jon love story, add maybe bit more depth to all the supernatural stuff etc. Most importantly, They could've and should've done more with Jon finding about his parents!! 

I'm watching season 1 again being a bastard and not knowing his mother is a huge deal for him. He didn't even bang a hot hooker because of it! And writers did nothing when he eventually found out. This for me is the biggest shortcoming of season 8.

Also much add that it's a bit rich from GRRM to "attack" these guys like this. He is working on multiple projects himself instead of finishing his own work and then blames others for wanting to do something else. At least these guys finished the story first. And before you blame me for defending D&D, this is more frustration towards GRRM. 

I agree D&D should've let someone else write the rest of it. But it is what it is.



shikamaru317 said:

I have been waiting on the final season to begin airing so that I can finally watch the whole series at once for only the price of 1 month of HBO xD Time to start an epic binge watch of all 7 previous seasons, by the time I'm done watching the first 7 season all episodes of GoT season 8 should be out so I will basically be binge watching the whole series in 1 go for $15.

That's a very efficient approach.  I try to be efficient as well, but I'm not that good.  

Basically, the wife and I rotate our subscription every few months between HBO, Netflix, Hulu, and Showtime.  We watch all the new stuff that we're interested in, then move on to the next service.  We do have Prime all the time though, for the shipping benefit.  



Hiku said:
sethnintendo said:
Yea that actress that played her went through a lot. I heard in an interview she almost died after first season or two in real life. She kept having brain hemorrhaging and had to have 2 surgerys. Would be a shame for such a fine piece of ass to die so young.

Yeah, I heard that as well. She's probably more invested in the character than anyone. And it was her first big role, and possibly the character she'll get associated with the most for the rest of her life.

Yea she invested a lot into her role.  Last season prob been better if given a few more episodes to flesh shit out.  I just thought outrage was because she went bad but I see your point fans wanted to see more how she flipped to bad.

What's crazy about interview she did was she said she didn't want to be a burden on show even though she nearly died twice.  She is a better actress prob than what show conveyed her for first few season.  To me she was eye candy more than anything but after hearing interview I have mad respect for her.



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Hiku said:

This video nails it on pretty much every major issue of the season:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhKOV3nImQ&feature=youtu.be

We should also appreciate how Epi 6 took 14 minutes showing Jon and Tyrion just walking through the city.

It's kinda sad. This is video is excellent and very detailed and yet it doesn't even come close to scratching the surface on the long list of issues in the final episode.



I found this datapiece interesting and perninent to the discussion of why the show decreased in quality after the books. As the budget increased, so did the earlier character-focused drama shift into standard shock-and-awe action. Call it "Hollywoodization" if you will. Notice the late blooms in parts of Season 6 and the second episode of Season 8 coinciding with better critical/fan reception. Also of note is the last episode, which included D&D's idea of a peace conference, having the second worst average of the entire series.



 

 

 

 

 

John2290 said:
Right, it's time to find a new fantasy series of books until George gets his ass in gear and the wheel of time aint doing it for me. It's too early to read GoT again, got to a few chapters i to A clash of kings and it 's still making mr angry because half the shit I'm read eventually turns out to mean nothing or go anywhere and all thread that aee badly handled.

Anyone gots a series that has mature themes, doesn't need to be a saga but a trilogy of books would be ideal. Preferably old enough for a conclusion o fthe horizon but if new at least a soft cover release. Audible would do if it has a talented VA or multiple VA.

Malazan Book of the Fallen, from Steven Erikson? It has a sort of "comics" feel to it, but the writer is an anthropologist and his worldbuilding is second only to Tolkien in the genre, I would say. There are ten books, but the first five form an arch of their own.

Or anything from Guy Gavriel Kay, specially the Sarantine Mosaic duology and Tigana.

Also, Chronicles of the Black Company by Glen Cook. All the stories together have been packed into four volumes the size of a standard fantasy book. They're morally gray and very fast paced, perhaps even to the point of reductionism.



 

 

 

 

 

John2290 said:
Ethan from H3H3 hit a on a grwat point. All those resurrected Dothraki should follow Jon as leader now through their tradition. Did Greyworm just murder them all or camera to prevent their support for Jon or what..

And Brans actor thought the script was a prank hahahha. Daym.

One of the good moments of season 7, unfortunately, they did nothing with his transformation. He's just a king from the Starks. 





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