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GoT season 8 final episode 6 tonight. (spoiler discussion) Fin. The end... for ever.

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I'm...

Hyped. 24 55.81%
 
Mildly interested. 11 25.58%
 
Not bothered. 5 11.63%
 
/indifferent/not watched/other in comments. 3 6.98%
 
Total:43

In the early seasons, she got sold, raped, had to eat a fucking raw heart, lost her husband ( the rapist one) when she started loving him, her babyand got betrayed a bunch of times then in the more recent seasons, she lost 2 kids, 2 long standing friends and advisors got betrayed again by the same people she help saved. Yet people are surprised she went crazy.



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haxxiy said:
John2290 said:

George has his own plot speeding device now with the glass candles, he doesn't have to spend so long with travel once they are implemented and he even had a foot note in one of the ADOD that he was time skipping. I think we will see him cut a lot of it down and bring the long night a lot sooner than in the show, I hope at least. 

Well, we have some sample chapters, both of removed ADWD material and newer stuff, and pace seems to be even slower than ADWD, if anything.

Not trying to be pessimistic, but...

I have tried and succed with ally might to stay away from the website and knowing now that I spoiled myself with the show I will hold strong to that. I guess I'll have to hold back my thoughts though bevause I really dpn't have the full story and I hate feeling like I am spoiling things reading theories. 

There is a good chance you are correct bit I hope your pessimism is just that. :(



 

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chapset said:
In the early seasons, she got sold, raped, had to eat a fucking raw heart, lost her husband ( the rapist one) when she started loving him, her babyand got betrayed a bunch of times then in the more recent seasons, she lost 2 kids, 2 long standing friends and advisors got betrayed again by the same people she help saved. Yet people are surprised she went crazy.

I knew people would say this, I turned off my PlayStation last night and had this exact thought thqt if I conplain about this people will misconstrued it as thr problem being she went crazy, that it not it, it is how it is developed and shown to us which is fuck all. A raised voice and does not make her mad, this is the first truly mad, unreasoned thing we have seen her do. If they had only put the time in, even two 10 minute scenes of her doi g sonething close to this scale in episode 1, 2 or 3 or perhaps blended in season 7 then it would havw worked really, really well. They didn't and it didn't.



 

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Faelco said:
Between the breath making rocks explode, the huge flags repeated again and again about the bells, and Dany getting angry all alone on her dragon for absolutely nothing (that scene was really laughable), it was pretty ridiculous. And way too much on the "Let's make good guys become crazy and kill civilians for 30 minutes to make the viewer hate them". It's just overkill, nothing good in that (well, at least it's easer to write that than dialogues...).

It was well established in Thrones universe that Dragon Breath is so powerful that it can destroy stone.

They said it quite a few times over the years. So that one thing isn't out of place.



the_dark_lewd said:
Faelco said:
Between the breath making rocks explode, the huge flags repeated again and again about the bells, and Dany getting angry all alone on her dragon for absolutely nothing (that scene was really laughable), it was pretty ridiculous. And way too much on the "Let's make good guys become crazy and kill civilians for 30 minutes to make the viewer hate them". It's just overkill, nothing good in that (well, at least it's easer to write that than dialogues...).

It was well established in Thrones universe that Dragon Breath is so powerful that it can destroy stone.

They said it quite a few times over the years. So that one thing isn't out of place.

It can melt stones. Melt. Like Harrenhal, yes. It doesn't make them explode like C4, it's fire, not explosives. 



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chapset said:
In the early seasons, she got sold, raped, had to eat a fucking raw heart, lost her husband ( the rapist one) when she started loving him, her babyand got betrayed a bunch of times then in the more recent seasons, she lost 2 kids, 2 long standing friends and advisors got betrayed again by the same people she help saved. Yet people are surprised she went crazy.

Sansa witnessed her (prior) love behead her father. She was held hostage by him, and forced to mary Tyrion, until she was handed over to the sadistic maniac that murdered her mother and brother, who proceeded to rape and torture her. Then she lost her younger brother at the hands of the same man, and found out she had been betrayed by Little Fingers. Theon who saved her life and finally returned to her was killed as well, and every remaining family member she has either died, left her, or "is something else now".

If Sansa had snapped and murdered all the women and children down in the crypt, you can also find some reason to point to as the cause. But without a proper buildup with a gradual descent, that's the absolute worst way to do it.

You could tell that they were maybe going in this direction for a while now. But executing slave owners or enemies who refused to yield is a far cry from innocent women and children who had surrendered. Considering how little the writers seem to care about having things make sense, 'surprised' isn't the word I'd use to describe my feelings about how this was handled.

Emilia Clarke also doesn't seem to be happy with how things turned out for her character:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA7UQOYskas

Peter Dinklage also point out how Tyrion apparently wasn't smart enough to realize that a crypt full of the dead isn't a good combination with the Night King who can raise the dead. I think every single fan comment I saw prior to that episode expected that to happen.

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Faelco said:
the_dark_lewd said:

It was well established in Thrones universe that Dragon Breath is so powerful that it can destroy stone.

They said it quite a few times over the years. So that one thing isn't out of place.

It can melt stones. Melt. Like Harrenhal, yes. It doesn't make them explode like C4, it's fire, not explosives. 

Not to mention it took Balerion the Black Dread a whole night to partially melt down Harrenhal.

I've seen some argue it might be vaporizing the water inside the rocks and making them explode, but watching again the iron fleet scene it's clear that's not the case. The jet just packs that much kinetic energy somehow. Arguably that feature alone is far more destructive than the fire. Drogon is like the world's most powerful pressure washer, he could be breathing milk instead and it would raze KL to the ground.



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
Faelco said:

It can melt stones. Melt. Like Harrenhal, yes. It doesn't make them explode like C4, it's fire, not explosives. 

Not to mention it took Balerion the Black Dread a whole night to partially melt down Harrenhal.

I've seen some argue it might be vaporizing the water inside the rocks and making them explode, but watching again the iron fleet scene it's clear that's not the case. The jet just packs that much kinetic energy somehow. Arguably that feature alone is far more destructive than the fire. Drogon is like the world's most powerful pressure washer, he could be breathing milk instead and it would raze KL to the ground.

I want to see that now :D

An oversized toddler razing a city while puking milk.



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colafitte said:
haxxiy said:

Do you think we'll have a new "record" in critical reception after a certain, uh, scene?

It's going to be spectacular seeing how people people react indeed .

Could you please tell me where I can find that leak so I can read it and get this over with?  I don´t feel like sitting through a whole hour of this again (besides, I dont wanna support the show anymore).

Thanks in advance



I have no idea why people haven't sensed since season 1 that Daenerys is quite selfish and self-important, and besides being exiled she have been given everything in a silver plate compared to the characters in Westeros. And for me it was quite obvious that she would be a tyrant in the future. And it showed obvious on the show when she discovered of Jon and couldn't accept to not be queen by being married to the king, it should be her the all important.
Anyone denying that being impossible to burn and having 3 dragons given away is having most of what she needed to conquer what she had is wrong =]



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