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KiigelHeart said:
Faelco said:

Like I said, Tywin did thousands times more than what she did. She's insignificant, the opposite of a God. She will be killed quickly, and forgotten quickly. She will be nothing more than a "remember the time when a dragon attacked King's Landing?". That's it. 99% of Westeros won't even know her name.

And "complex character" doesn't describe what happened in the episode, at all. There was no depth or complexity in the massacre, just "here, she's mad and became a villain".

But hey, if you even defend the stones C4 explosions, then I guess it's useless to keep talking about this. A bit more and you will say stuff like "Jaime had a great ending for his redemption arc" or "Arya totally has reasons to be the only one resisting dragon fire". It's actually nice that it doesn't take a lot to make you happy with it!

Duh, of course she will be forgotten quickly if she's killed in the next episode. Now if she takes the throne, which she believes is her destiny, then it's just a beginning of  her reign as a godlike ruler. It's a bit funny how you're trying to downplay her burning the city that has never fallen before and destroying an army and Iron Fleet in a matter of minutes.

Tywin surely was a powerful, intelligent, feared and respected man. I still don't get why you're bringing him up. Him not obsessed of taking the throne or being some sort of savior also made him a better tactician and politic. But he was also just a man, not a dragon king :P

There's complexity in the massacre, sufficient depth is debatable. Just read Angelus' post again. If you still take the "ooo she wasn't kissed by her boyfriend so she torched it all" stance then I don't know what to tell you. At least you're watching the episodes again, I'm sure you'll find out why so many fans were expecting her to turn mad. She threatened to burn cities down before, including King's Landing during later season.

I'm bringing Tywin because I'm right now at the end of season 3 again, when Tywin gives a lesson of "Game of thrones" to everyone in the series, and shows what a smart ruthless leader is. But sure, it was the time when the characters were still smart, before Dumb&Dumber made Tyrion, Varys, Littlefinger and any other "smart player" as dumb as themselves because they were unable to write any smart plot.

"He was just a man, not a dragon king"? But Dragon kings and queens are just men and women. They die just like any peasant out there. 

And I'm not saying that she shouldn't turn mad, I'm saying that it was handled in an embarrassing and stupid way. Several people already said ways to make this episode a lot better (like killing Rhaegal during the battle), in this state it's just garbage writing.

The city fell before, by the way. Cersei saying "The Red keep never fell" is just another proof of the writers' stupidity, since Ned and Robert took the Red Keep and the city at the time. Armies are destroyed in every season of the series (just saw the red wedding, with the entire north army destroyed in a matter of minutes), and the Iron Fleet was just a teleporting plot device with a random strength changing depending on the will of the writers. I'm downplaying what she did because it was stupid, unnecessary, and will lead to her death. She could have been a godlike ruler and bring her family's glory back. But because of that, she will die and her family with her. She threw everything away with that. If you admire her that much, you should also see that.

It will surely happen in the books, but it will be handled way better, with a real evolution and real reasons and not just 10 seconds of "look at her face, she's mad now". Because no, like I said before, "they don't love me" doesn't hold up at all, neither does "if they're not with me, they're against me". It's BS invented by drunk writers who surely wrote the massacre first, and then asked themselves "Crap, we didn't justify that at all, what kind of excuse can she say at the beginning of the episode?".

And for the dragon fire, that's what I meant. People who receive dragon fire die. Then why did Arya survive at the end, when everyone else around her died? Once again, garbage writing.