| Faelco said: Like I said, Tywin did thousands times more than what she did. She's insignificant, the opposite of a God. She will be killed quickly, and forgotten quickly. She will be nothing more than a "remember the time when a dragon attacked King's Landing?". That's it. 99% of Westeros won't even know her name. And "complex character" doesn't describe what happened in the episode, at all. There was no depth or complexity in the massacre, just "here, she's mad and became a villain". But hey, if you even defend the stones C4 explosions, then I guess it's useless to keep talking about this. A bit more and you will say stuff like "Jaime had a great ending for his redemption arc" or "Arya totally has reasons to be the only one resisting dragon fire". It's actually nice that it doesn't take a lot to make you happy with it! |
Duh, of course she will be forgotten quickly if she's killed in the next episode. Now if she takes the throne, which she believes is her destiny, then it's just a beginning of her reign as a godlike ruler. It's a bit funny how you're trying to downplay her burning the city that has never fallen before and destroying an army and Iron Fleet in a matter of minutes.
Tywin surely was a powerful, intelligent, feared and respected man. I still don't get why you're bringing him up. Him not obsessed of taking the throne or being some sort of savior also made him a better tactician and politic. But he was also just a man, not a dragon king :P
There's complexity in the massacre, sufficient depth is debatable. Just read Angelus' post again. If you still take the "ooo she wasn't kissed by her boyfriend so she torched it all" stance then I don't know what to tell you. At least you're watching the episodes again, I'm sure you'll find out why so many fans were expecting her to turn mad. She threatened to burn cities down before, including King's Landing during later season.
I don't remember defending C4 explosions but yeah I do find stuff like that nitpicking. I wrote a more detailed post of what I liked about the episode and how they executed the mayhem. I used to do this nitpicking stuff when watching movies when I was younger but these days I try to look much deeper for themes and stuff. It doesn't have anything to do with being easily pleased, it's more about focusing different things. Speaking of dragon fire, technically every movie where characters storm into burning buildings or in this case, standing close to dragon fire would kill you. The hot air will burn your lungs so you can't breathe anymore.
Hiku said:
That was my original theory, because I don't think putting another Targaryan, even if they're half Stark, would be the "lesson learnt" in all of this. |
Interesting.. I don't know why at any point you thought this show is taking the "lesson learnt" route. Jon destroying the throne would be the most obvious ending and that's what I'd expect if GoT was like any other show. It would also be a bit lame considering it would be naive to think destroying the throne would lead to 7 Kingdoms to rule in autonomy.
| Immersiveunreality said: Most important for me is always the story and since they ran out of bookmaterial the show has been lacking,almost feel like i should just stop watching and leave it to the books to give me a decent ending with a good buildup,it would be worth the wait for me. It is such a pity that the show is great in all the other departments while the writers have given up and ruin it for me. |
Yeah I agree the quality of story has been worse since they ran out of bookmaterial. But I think it's also because GRRM didn't do himself favors setting up so many plot lines the way he did. I think there's a reason he hasn't continued his story and it's because he's struggling with it himself too.
As far as I know, the show will have an ending GRRM outlined for writers. So take it or leave it. Books should, of course, have a more detailed buildup.
hatmoza said:
and instead of them killing her second dragon for shock purposes in the previous episode, they killed it this episode just prior to ringing the bell. Seriously, the writers are hacks. |
It would be an obvious trigger for the audience but it would wreck the tone of the events.
They surrender, there's silence and relief.. then boom a surprise shot killing the dragon sending her to rampage. Sounds like a staple from any other show ever made lol. Yes it would've perhaps lead to better reviews but at the cost of the scene.
