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Forums - General Discussion - GoT season 8 final episode 6 tonight. (spoiler discussion) Fin. The end... for ever. D&D can burn in the seven hells.

 

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Hyped. 24 55.81%
 
Mildly interested. 11 25.58%
 
Not bothered. 5 11.63%
 
/indifferent/not watched/other in comments. 3 6.98%
 
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chakkra on 13 May 2019
colafitte said:
chakkra said:

Could you please tell me where I can find that leak so I can read it and get this over with?  I don´t feel like sitting through a whole hour of this again (besides, I dont wanna support the show anymore).

Thanks in advance

I read it in the spoiler thread in resetera....i will pass you the exact link where they made a summary of the last 2 eps...Let me find it....here it is

https://www.resetera.com/threads/open-spoilers-game-of-thrones-s8-full-leak-discussion-volimar-dohaeris.103547/page-193#post-20670870

it's the post #9616

Thank you for saving me the time.  I had zero desire to watch it before but now I am 100% sure that I won´t.



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Scoobes on 13 May 2019
Neodegenerate said:
DonFerrari said:
I have no idea why people haven't sensed since season 1 that Daenerys is quite selfish and self-important, and besides being exiled she have been given everything in a silver plate compared to the characters in Westeros. And for me it was quite obvious that she would be a tyrant in the future. And it showed obvious on the show when she discovered of Jon and couldn't accept to not be queen by being married to the king, it should be her the all important.
Anyone denying that being impossible to burn and having 3 dragons given away is having most of what she needed to conquer what she had is wrong =]

The issue isn't that she did what she did though.. it's the fact that this was the equivalent of a sudden pro wrestling heel turn with no story defined rhyme or reason.  It essentially boils down to "I screwed up and let my second dragon die and my lover didn't kiss me back soo.... off I go doing everything I swore I would never do."

This turn of events has been hinted at repeatedly since Dany got her dragons. The showrunners have made it extra obvious since she came to Westeros. I'm not sure how you think this is a sudden heel turn.




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S.Peelman on 13 May 2019
John2290 said:
S.Peelman said:
I actually liked the fifth episode.

Daenerys going mad was always a probable outcome. I agree the show got there too fast though, this season really needed to be a full 10 episodes. Ignoring why we are where we are because of the writing missteps in the previous two episodes, I think this one wraps up some of the storylines pretty well. Liked the conclusion of the Clegane arc, liked Cersei finally realising she overplayed her hand and actually felt sorry for a moment. There was also finally some actual strategy to this battle, with the dragon being put to good and smart use and Tyrion’s plan to ring the bell to stop the fighting. The Golden Company sure got more than what they bargained for and Euron with his smug grin was finally bested. His scorpions being useless because they were too slow was a more realistic choice than them being able to one shot a dragon. They should’ve just had Viserion kill Rhaegal, but anyway. Glad this episode was fine, let’s see how the last one turns out, going in without any spoilers or reading any rumours.

I'm happy reading posts like this, it's almost like living vicariously through you. You are so lucky, never forgethoe lucky you are. You are honestly the most lucky GoT viewer.

Heh, well you’re welcome, I guess. Nah but I’m not saying it’s all as brilliant as seasons 3 and 4, or 1 and 2, or even 5 and 6, but I’d say, while disagreeing what they did storywise in last two episodes with various events and characters, had they given this latest Deanerys twist and the resulting destruction a bit more time to cook it’s a believable outcome.

Plus this episode looked and sounded amazing.



chakkra on 13 May 2019
Hiku said:
chakkra said:

Could you please tell me where I can find that leak so I can read it and get this over with?  I don´t feel like sitting through a whole hour of this again (besides, I dont wanna support the show anymore).

Thanks in advance

Colafitte linked you what appears to be someone else re-summarizing the original leak. But they use different terms and wording for some things, and seems to be confused about a particular detail in the end, so here's the exact post from the leaker themselves:

https://i.imgur.com/CFwH3cL.png <-- *Massive Game of Thrones ending spoilers*



The leaker has been 100% correct on everything that happened in Episode 4 and 5, so it's extremely likely to be how Episode 6 turns out as well.

I decided to read it now as well, and I actually started laughing at how the iron throne thing will be resolved.

You know, I just learned that one of these writers wrote X-men Origins (the one with non-mouth Deadpool). Man, I really have to pay more attention to who are the writers of the things I watch..



haxxiy on 13 May 2019
DarthMetalliCube said:

So yeah, still some writing flaws and not at the level of quality of the first 3-4 seasons of Thrones, but at least the show's somewhat gone back to its more dark and nihilistic bent, which is part of the reason the show appealed to me in the first place. Lord of the Rings, this is NOT..

A Song of Ice and Fire is a series that refuses to cheat to let the heroes win, and knows how to let shit rain in the story without letting it stink.

It is not, and has never been, a festival of diabolus ex machina.

@John2290 - breathe in deep, buddy, it sucks but it is what it is. Even if that was GRRM's idea, there's always Tolkien, Le Guin or even Shakespeare to remind us how fantasy and tragedy can be properly written. Sanderson and Kay are still active writers too, and good on what they're doing.

@shikamaru317 - I wouldn't take MatPat as a deep, meaningful analysis on anything. His purpose has aways been to entertain his audience with ludicrous ideas peppered with some didactic science, conspiracy theory style. See Mario is an evil communist, for instance.



 

 

 

 

 

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zorg1000 on 13 May 2019
haxxiy said:

A Song of Ice and Fire is a series that refuses to cheat to let the heroes win

Except for the time Grey Wind found a goat track that allowed Robb's army to bypass the Golden Tooth and sneak up on the Lannister army at the Oxcross.



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SecondWar on 13 May 2019

As a spectacle, episode 5 was the best of the season so far and the moments between the Hound and Arya, then Jamie and Tyrion are some emotive highlights.

I can see the point everyone is making about the handling of Dany's character. I also think Euron has been completely wasted. The whole thing has just been rushed. Why did they only have 6 episodes again? Dreading that the finale is going to be really haphazard and hamfisted.

Also, Arya could probably have taken a direct hit from a scorpion bolt and lived without a scratch, her plot armour was that thick.



dark_gh0st_b0y on 13 May 2019
Scoobes said:
Neodegenerate said:

The issue isn't that she did what she did though.. it's the fact that this was the equivalent of a sudden pro wrestling heel turn with no story defined rhyme or reason.  It essentially boils down to "I screwed up and let my second dragon die and my lover didn't kiss me back soo.... off I go doing everything I swore I would never do."

This turn of events has been hinted at repeatedly since Dany got her dragons. The showrunners have made it extra obvious since she came to Westeros. I'm not sure how you think this is a sudden heel turn.

come ooon, that was pure bullshit, i can understand being a bit mad and overdoing it with fear etc so the story unfolds towards the show's end but destroying the best of what she is supposed to rule at that point makes no damn logic and was made purely for viewer's shock factor on which the whole series was always based on (unless she somehow makes sense in the last episode)

one of the reasons why Breaking Bad has higher rankings overall even though its production budget is abysmal compared to GoT



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haxxiy on 13 May 2019
shikamaru317 said:
haxxiy said:

@shikamaru317 - I wouldn't take MatPat as a deep, meaningful analysis on anything. His purpose has aways been to entertain his audience with ludicrous ideas peppered with some didactic science, conspiracy theory style. See Mario is an evil communist, for instance.

Usually I would agree, and alot of his theories I have found to be downright asinine, but in this case his theory turned out to be 100% right in the end, and his science was sound. 

I think someone did the maths of the inbreeding coefficients for all the generations of Targaryens, and they're actually sky high, even for Jon. In fact to the point the family is close to a homozygous group of individuals differing only by their sexual chromosomes.

(Fun trivia: such groups of individuals do exist in real life - lab rats, for instance. With proper eugenics, paradoxically, it's outbreeding that would increase the risk of harmful recessive genes contaminating the pool. Assuming random mutation doesn't work faster between generations, that is.)

And considering the whole Lannister-Baratheon plot involved a piece of Mendelian genetics inacessible to the brighest medieval thinkers and the whole "family look" being fixed for centuries, it seems we should give GRRM's biology a pass here.



 

 

 

 

 

Faelco on 13 May 2019
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
Scoobes said:

This turn of events has been hinted at repeatedly since Dany got her dragons. The showrunners have made it extra obvious since she came to Westeros. I'm not sure how you think this is a sudden heel turn.

come ooon, that was pure bullshit, i can understand being a bit mad and overdoing it with fear etc so the story unfolds towards the show's end but destroying the best of what she is supposed to rule at that point makes no damn logic and was made purely for viewer's shock factor on which the whole series was always based on (unless she somehow makes sense in the last episode)

one of the reasons why Breaking Bad has higher rankings overall even though its production budget is abysmal compared to GoT

The "reason" they already tried to give about Dany is "the citizens of King's Landing didn't revolt against Cersei, so they're her ennemies too", and "the slaves she freed before revolted against their masters".

Because sure, common citizens minding their own business (and who have no reason to bother about Targaryens or Lannister) have as much reasons to revolt as slaves being tortured and killed. Of course. Such a great writing.