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Azzanation said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gaming-platform

https://www.techopedia.com/definition/3411/platform

https://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/definition/platform

Quote: "a platform is any hardware or software used to host an application or service."
^ Exactly what I thought, Software like Steam can be considered as a Platform.

"In IT, a platform is any hardware or software used to host an application or service. An application platform, for example, consists of hardware, an operating system and coordinating programs that use the instruction set for a particular processor or microprocessor. In this case, the platform creates a foundation that ensures object code will execute successfully."

You're just cherry picking a snippet of a single definition instead of looking at the overall consensus. Or the rest of the definition for that matter. Software that is running on hardware can be a platform in the same sense that a wheel on a car is a car. But only when paired up with the rest of the working parts. Remove a wheel from a car, and you've just got a wheel. It's no longer a car by itself. Remove the software from the hardware of a platform and you've just got software. It's no longer a platform by itself. 

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thismeintiel said:

The XBO's install base really isn't worth it for any company to go full exclusive on it. Trust me, if XBox was in a better situation, MS wouldn't be porting all their games to PC.

That would make no difference. The industry is always about moving forward not backwards. Corps go where the money is. Even if the XB1 was the top selling platform, MS would be going down this route regardless. They wouldn't have designed the Windows UWP system otherwise. Your post just sounds premature. Its a business not a trophy league.

twintail said:

So what was Titanfall, Rise of the TB, and buying out some studios that make multiplatform games?

Are we talking years ago or now? Because I am talking about now. What timed exclusive has MS locked away, instead they have put more 1st party IPs on other platforms, games like Hellblade, Cuphead and Halo MCC just to name afew. Has Nintendo or Sony done that lately? 

Cerebralbore101 said:

"In IT, a platform is any hardware or software used to host an application or service. An application platform, for example, consists of hardware, an operating system and coordinating programs that use the instruction set for a particular processor or microprocessor. In this case, the platform creates a foundation that ensures object code will execute successfully."

You're just cherry picking a snippet of a single definition instead of looking at the overall consensus. Or the rest of the definition for that matter. Software that is running on hardware can be a platform in the same sense that a wheel on a car is a car. But only when paired up with the rest of the working parts. Remove a wheel from a car, and you've just got a wheel. It's no longer a car by itself. Remove the software from the hardware of a platform and you've just got software. It's no longer a platform by itself. 

Cherry picking? More like simplifying it for you. Steam operates on a OS and requires Hardware to run. Which is what makes launchers like Steam a Platform. You cannot run it on your fridge, it requires technology that its programmed for. eg Windows/MacOS etc.

Steam, EGS, Win10 Store etc are platforms to me. 

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Azzanation said:

twintail said:

So what was Titanfall, Rise of the TB, and buying out some studios that make multiplatform games?

Are we talking years ago or now? Because I am talking about now. What timed exclusive has MS locked away, instead they have put more 1st party IPs on other platforms, games like Hellblade, Cuphead and Halo MCC just to name afew. Has Nintendo or Sony done that lately? 

Buying mutiplatform studios with no direct connection to MS was less than a year ago. I suppose you could always add PUBG, that is not exactly that long ago either.

And Hellblade Switch is not published by them cause they had zero say on the matter.

It is not really about what Nintendo or Sony have done lately but rather that MS is not 'not doing it'.



twintail said:

Buying mutiplatform studios with no direct connection to MS was less than a year ago. I suppose you could always add PUBG, that is not exactly that long ago either.

And Hellblade Switch is not published by them cause they had zero say on the matter.

It is not really about what Nintendo or Sony have done lately but rather that MS is not 'not doing it'.

What does buying studio's got to do with buying timed exclusives? Completey different topic. You can argue that with every platform maker.

It doesn't matter who publishes Hellblade, MS own Ninja Theory who will be earning money off the sales which MS now make a % of there profit. Yes thats correct, MS will be making money off Hellblade weather you like it or not. To say MS have no control on the decision is facepalm worthy. They own the studio who owns the IP. Are you going to argue that its not MSs decision to bring Halo to Steam next? come on haha. Especially when MS came out recently suggesting bringing GamePass and published titles to Switch.

So you are trying to avoid the question? Nice try, what has Nintendo or Sony brought to other platform's? MS see past the anti consumer business. Its why i praise them this gen. I dont need to buy an Xbox, but not because out of some childish spite, but because of convience.

I suggest you boycott these games if you dont like MS. Same goes with Cuphead etc. 

Read this before you post a reply so you can see exactly how wrong you are when it comes to MS and there control of there games.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/03/microsoft_asked_the_studio_behind_cuphead_to_bring_the_game_to_switch

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Azzanation said:
twintail said:

Buying mutiplatform studios with no direct connection to MS was less than a year ago. I suppose you could always add PUBG, that is not exactly that long ago either.

And Hellblade Switch is not published by them cause they had zero say on the matter.

It is not really about what Nintendo or Sony have done lately but rather that MS is not 'not doing it'.

What does buying studio's got to do with buying timed exclusives? Completey different topic. You can argue that with every platform maker.

It doesn't matter who publishes Hellblade, MS own Ninja Theory who will be earning money off the sales which MS now make a % of there profit. Yes thats correct, MS will be making money off Hellblade weather you like it or not. To say MS have no control on the decision is facepalm worthy. They own the studio who owns the IP. Are you going to argue that its not MSs decision to bring Halo to Steam next? come on haha. Especially when MS came out recently suggesting bringing GamePass and published titles to Switch.

So you are trying to avoid the question? Nice try, what has Nintendo or Sony brought to other platform's? MS see past the anti consumer business. Its why i praise them this gen. I dont need to buy an Xbox, but not because out of some childish spite, but because of convience.

I suggest you boycott these games if you dont like MS. Same goes with Cuphead etc. 

Read this before you post a reply so you can see exactly how wrong you are when it comes to MS and there control of there games.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/03/microsoft_asked_the_studio_behind_cuphead_to_bring_the_game_to_switch

This is a hilarious reply. I'm not even arguing that Nintendo or Sony dont do what you suggest they do. In fact I'm sure they do. I'm only questioning your thoughts on MS, which you are clearly trying to avoid by throwing some baseless facts around.

It doesn't matter if MS gets money off Hellblade Switch. I never said that. But the move to put it on Switch was made before MS acquired NT. So no, they had no control over the port, regardless if they were opposed to it or not. NT made the deal with Qloc to port the game with zero involvement from MS. All games in production before these acquisitions are still being released from related devs. That is a fact.

If you can argue that all platform makers are buying up multiplatform studios with no direct ties to them, then show the reciepts.

And actually yeah, it isn't much different. Paying a dev/ publisher to keep a game exclusive and buying said dev/ publisher so that their games are exclusive is ultimately the same thing, denying potential multiplatform games from releasing on anything but your own hardware.

Just because MS gets to own more studios to fuel your fanboyism doesn't change the fact that they used money to keep future games off other potential platforms.

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KManX89 said:
gemini_d@rk said:
The last time Microsoft got involved with dino crisis it killed the franchise with a pitiful game. I hope it is the redemption and correction of that fact.

Who says it'll be MS exclusive? DMC5 was announced at MS' show last year and it was multiplat. Capcom's not gonna walk away from the 95+ mil install base of the PS4.

But yeah, I've been wanting a new Dino Crisis for years, be it a reboot or true sequel to DC2, which left off at a cliffhanger ending with Regina. #Hype.

Who said anything about exclusivity?  Can't wait to see this game.  It felt like a resident evil clone.. well, it was.  Obviously there wont be any tank controls, and I think that's a good thing too.  RE1, 2 & 3 are fine with tank controls, but a modern game doesn't need them.  Part of me wishes there werent so many reboots, though.  When's the new original fresh IPs coming, that isn't about zombies?...



twintail said:

This is a hilarious reply. I'm not even arguing that Nintendo or Sony dont do what you suggest they do. In fact I'm sure they do. I'm only questioning your thoughts on MS, which you are clearly trying to avoid by throwing some baseless facts around.

It doesn't matter if MS gets money off Hellblade Switch. I never said that. But the move to put it on Switch was made before MS acquired NT. So no, they had no control over the port, regardless if they were opposed to it or not. NT made the deal with Qloc to port the game with zero involvement from MS. All games in production before these acquisitions are still being released from related devs. That is a fact.

If you can argue that all platform makers are buying up multiplatform studios with no direct ties to them, then show the reciepts.

And actually yeah, it isn't much different. Paying a dev/ publisher to keep a game exclusive and buying said dev/ publisher so that their games are exclusive is ultimately the same thing, denying potential multiplatform games from releasing on anything but your own hardware.

Just because MS gets to own more studios to fuel your fanboyism doesn't change the fact that they used money to keep future games off other potential platforms.

Wow this is hilarious. 

You strongly believe MS have no choice /facepalm.. they own 100% of Ninja Theory and 100% of HellBlade IP which falls under NT. The sad truth here is the lack of logic applied to your post. MS have all the choices in the world here. They can easily cancel the contract between whatever imaginary contract you are talking about here.. They own it. No different to how Epic pulled Metro Exodus from Steam weeks away from releasing and locking it to EGS.

You need to learn that when you own something you can control it. The problem here is you refuse to believe that MS allow these things to happen, its far from them not having a choice. The proof is pretty simple that MS want this to happen, just like in my Link I sent you.. they want Cuphead on Switch, they are not losing these exclusives when they want them to be on the machine. Halo MCC is coming to Steam because MS want it on Steam, they want Minecraft on Switch because they want it on Switch. Strong rumours say they want GamePass and future published titles on Switch.. how much clearer can it be. The choice is they are allowing Hellblade on Switch and not paying out the contract and terminating it. So you should be thanking them not hating them. If it was Sony, expect Sony to pull out all ports of a game and locking it into the PS eco-system, and Nintendo are no different here.

https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/02/21/rumor-microsoft-bringing-game-pass-and-published-titles-to-switch

^Its a rumour but the way things are between MS and Nintendo with Crossplay, Switch Live account and more 1st party MS games coming to Switch, its not rocket science.

Buying studios is a different business, its got nothing to do with buying timed exclusives and porting 1st party games to other platforms. In other words, thank MS for buying those studios because at least there's a chance they will release on Steam and Switch unlike there competitors who wont be so passive with them.

Fuelling my fanboyism? so you are calling me a fanboy? Its more like I am stating the obvious. There's a difference.

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Azzanation said:

Wow this is hilarious. 

You strongly believe MS have no choice /facepalm.. they own 100% of Ninja Theory and 100% of HellBlade IP which falls under NT. The sad truth here is the lack of logic applied to your post. MS have all the choices in the world here. They can easily cancel the contract between whatever imaginary contract you are talking about here.. They own it. No different to how Epic pulled Metro Exodus from Steam weeks away from releasing and locking it to EGS.

You need to learn that when you own something you can control it. The problem here is you refuse to believe that MS allow these things to happen, its far from them not having a choice. The proof is pretty simple that MS want this to happen, just like in my Link I sent you.. they want Cuphead on Switch, they are not losing these exclusives when they want them to be on the machine. Halo MCC is coming to Steam because MS want it on Steam, they want Minecraft on Switch because they want it on Switch. Strong rumours say they want GamePass and future published titles on Switch.. how much clearer can it be. The choice is they are allowing Hellblade on Switch and not paying out the contract and terminating it. So you should be thanking them not hating them. If it was Sony, expect Sony to pull out all ports of a game and locking it into the PS eco-system, and Nintendo are no different here.

https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/02/21/rumor-microsoft-bringing-game-pass-and-published-titles-to-switch

^Its a rumour but the way things are between MS and Nintendo with Crossplay, Switch Live account and more 1st party MS games coming to Switch, its not rocket science.

Buying studios is a different business, its got nothing to do with buying timed exclusives and porting 1st party games to other platforms. In other words, thank MS for buying those studios because at least there's a chance they will release on Steam and Switch unlike there competitors who wont be so passive with them.

Fuelling my fanboyism? so you are calling me a fanboy? Its more like I am stating the obvious. There's a difference.

Why is the Switch version of Hellblade published by NT and not MS?
Why is the physical ps4 release by 505 Games and not MS?
Why is Obsidian still on Outer Worlds?
Why is Wasteland 3 still coming to PS4 with no MS attachment?

Do publishers have to sign a binding contract with Steam to use their service?
Were preorders not honoured after the Epic deal?

I have shown no disdain to MS in this thread. And I know that MS wants their games everywhere.

At the end of the day the result is the same: a multiplatform studio will be making MS published games. There's no need to deny the obvious here. Nothing you have tried to say in any of your points changes this.

Likewise you claim Nintendo/ Sony do the same without anything to show for it.