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Immersiveunreality said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Economic migrants have been given jobs ahead of local workers for a long time and it has been covered up by the government.
The majority of available jobs are never advertised and are handed to economic migrants that are flown into skilled and unskilled jobs ahead of local job searches. There are many jobs that local workers never had a chance of applying for and will never get because employers bring in cheap foreign workers to take jobs to work for lower wages and help boost companies profit margins. Reducing cost of wages helps boost profit and reducing wages is the best way. From a business view it is great but local workers miss out on jobs. 

Applying for jobs online is a waste of time, because most emails are never read and automated rejection response if you are lucky. Knocking on businesses door and being persistent is probably better way of finding employment than useless online applications or sending useless emails. No one checks emails, automated repose or emails never received. A physical presence, passion and determination is going to be harder to ignore that unless online applications or emails that no one reads or ever responds to.

It is hard work to gain employment in this  country. I would move to any other country in this world and it would be easier getting a job. Australia is the hardest job market in this world to get a job. If you are lucky to have a job in this country it is hard work to keep that job and not get replaced by easy to bring in cheaper foreign worker. You are very lucky to have a job in this country. I hope you do not get replaced by economic migrants that can work harder for cheaper pay rates and they will not join Unions.

Economic migrants also do jobs that local workers do not want to do.

That is why the bring them in the first place lol, last resort.



 

 

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I should have marched into businesses the next day and kept on persisting until I got the job. I held my cool and did nothing and got more depressed and one day I just gave up and just wrote jobs down that I never applied for or look at job ads online and list them down on forms. Not applying for jobs got me the same results of applying for jobs that never stood a chance of ever getting. I never applied for thousands of jobs, I lost count and gave up after a while and became depressed. I will never apply for another job ever again because I do not have a resume, no experience and no skills and too old for the retail/fast food jobs.

I hated those: we will call you rejections. What a joke, they never ever call back. I should have made more noise, showed some passion and determination and fought for what I want in this world. Instead of accepting those not today excuses. I should be asking why not? It is an insult to be overlooked for every job and never given a reason why you never got the job. In my job applications I used to write detailed essays on how I would be the most suitable candidate, addressed the criteria and claim I would do whatever it takes to make the business more profitable and working hard to be the best employee for the company. A job applicant with a rubbish resume or no resume, family or friend of employer/manager got the job every time instead of me, clearly proved it was who you know, not what you know got the job.



If you do not gain employment between the ages of 15 to 25 it is highly likely you will face long periods of unemployment later in life. A 25 year old is a better job applicant with 5 to 10 years employment compared to a 25 year old who has never had a job in his/her life. I reached 25 and had never worked, I completed a Bachelor degree and 10 years have gone by so quickly and now in my mid 30s, I have never worked. 

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/young-and-out-australia-s-hidden-scourge-of-youth-unemployment-20180622-p4zn4k.html

Why are young people increasingly failing to make the leap into full-time jobs? It's hard to know. Partly it's a subdued economy, but it's possible that young people are graduating with degrees that don't match the skills needed by employers.
Why employ a young person who needs experience when you can get a more experienced foreign worker ready to go for the same price?
How is it that we have growing youth unemployment and yet we are running a huge immigration program based on so called skills shortages? Skills shortages that don't have any independent market testing or any requirement to list positions locally.
It is a increasingly competitive jobs market. Young people are staying in education longer than ever before, they are taking up more unpaid cadetships and training positions. In a global labor market labor is cheap. Government policy supports business profits against the interests of workers. The wages and conditions build up over generations of the labor movement are being undone.

Last edited by Dark_Lord_2008 - on 13 April 2019

https://unemployedworkersunion.com/job-seekers-v-job-vacancy-data/

2018 (December)

Unemployed: 666,700 (Labor Force, ABS 6202.0)

Underemployed: 1,117,500  (Labor Force, ABS 6202.0)

Hidden’ unemployed: 1,080,000   (Participation Job Search and Mobility February 2018, ABS 6226.0)

Department of Employment, Vacancy Report: 183,900′

2,864,200 competing for 183,900 job vacancies

Ratio of job seekers to job vacancies: 1 to 15.57 

Clearly not enough jobs and majority of unemployed remain unemployed at the end of the month. Failure of businesses and government policy not creating enough employment. More part-time jobs are being created and fewer full time jobs are being created that increases the rate of underemployment.

Last edited by Dark_Lord_2008 - on 14 April 2019

Dark_Lord_2008 said:

If you do not gain employment between the ages of 15 to 25 it is highly likely you will face long periods of unemployment later in life. A 25 year old is a better job applicant with 5 to 10 years employment compared to a 25 year old who has never had a job in his/her life. I reached 25 and had never worked, I completed a Bachelor degree and 10 years have gone by so quickly and now in my mid 30s, I have never worked. 

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/young-and-out-australia-s-hidden-scourge-of-youth-unemployment-20180622-p4zn4k.html

Why are young people increasingly failing to make the leap into full-time jobs? It's hard to know. Partly it's a subdued economy, but it's possible that young people are graduating with degrees that don't match the skills needed by employers.
Why employ a young person who needs experience when you can get a more experienced foreign worker ready to go for the same price?
How is it that we have growing youth unemployment and yet we are running a huge immigration program based on so called skills shortages? Skills shortages that don't have any independent market testing or any requirement to list positions locally.
It is a increasingly competitive jobs market. Young people are staying in education longer than ever before, they are taking up more unpaid cadetships and training positions. In a global labor market labor is cheap. Government policy supports business profits against the interests of workers. The wages and conditions build up over generations of the labor movement are being undone.

I can only speak about America, but experience means EVERYTHING. Connections are second and education comes at a distant third unless you graduated from an Ivy league school or something.



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Snoopy said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

If you do not gain employment between the ages of 15 to 25 it is highly likely you will face long periods of unemployment later in life. A 25 year old is a better job applicant with 5 to 10 years employment compared to a 25 year old who has never had a job in his/her life. I reached 25 and had never worked, I completed a Bachelor degree and 10 years have gone by so quickly and now in my mid 30s, I have never worked. 

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/young-and-out-australia-s-hidden-scourge-of-youth-unemployment-20180622-p4zn4k.html

Why are young people increasingly failing to make the leap into full-time jobs? It's hard to know. Partly it's a subdued economy, but it's possible that young people are graduating with degrees that don't match the skills needed by employers.
Why employ a young person who needs experience when you can get a more experienced foreign worker ready to go for the same price?
How is it that we have growing youth unemployment and yet we are running a huge immigration program based on so called skills shortages? Skills shortages that don't have any independent market testing or any requirement to list positions locally.
It is a increasingly competitive jobs market. Young people are staying in education longer than ever before, they are taking up more unpaid cadetships and training positions. In a global labor market labor is cheap. Government policy supports business profits against the interests of workers. The wages and conditions build up over generations of the labor movement are being undone.

I can only speak about America, but experience means EVERYTHING. Connections are second and education comes at a distant third unless you graduated from an Ivy league school or something.

I speak for Europe,just to compete with you ;)

But a lot of unexperienced people have gotten work because i asked the higher ups at my place,if people are interested and want to learn and work for their earnings im able to give them a chance.



Immersiveunreality said:
Snoopy said:

I can only speak about America, but experience means EVERYTHING. Connections are second and education comes at a distant third unless you graduated from an Ivy league school or something.

I speak for Europe,just to compete with you ;)

But a lot of unexperienced people have gotten work because i asked the higher ups at my place,if people are interested and want to learn and work for their earnings im able to give them a chance.

Disgusting, no wonder Europe is poor. You make me sick!

J/K btw.



Yes there are a lot of useless degrees like arts, there is no job for arts.

However you did commerce, you should have been able to find a job. You can't just aim for the top 4 firms only in the country lol.

I did Engineering, i didn't get a job straight out of uni, it depends on when companies are hiring. Most good degrees students will land a job with a year.

Landing a job straight out of uni within the first 3 months is highly unrealistic expectation. If 70% are getting work within that time frame then fmd, that is pretty damn good.



 

 

I've been unemployed for about a month, and it's getting me more depressed than I usually am.

I was a teacher, but I just couldn't do it. It wasn't for me. Unfortunately a teaching degree doesn't allow you to do much else besides teach (my undergrad was in English) so I'm sort of shit out of luck. I'm looking to get into the legal world so I've been filling out applications for entry level paralegal work. That's usually a straight out of college thing, so I was hoping an advanced degree would give me an edge, but no luck so far. I may go to law school, but that means another three years, and I'm terrified of winding up in a similar situation 3 years from now, finding out that I'm not equipped to be a lawyer either.

The whole thing has me feeling like shit and scared out of my mind that I'll just never be able to work. Has me just about on the verge of a breakdown. Just needed to vent I guess.



I hate people gloating how easy their life. They have no understanding of the real world.
Commerce is a useless degree and I regret ever wasting my  time and effort with a useless education.
If education or training does not lead to you gaining employment it is a waste of time and effort.
I have endless time to reflect upon my life and ponder what I could have done from an impossible situation. A different course like Engineering, IT or Law may have lead to bette employment prospects. A trade apprenticeship like plumbing, electrical work, painting, roof tiling, brick laying, may have lead to better employment prospects,

No matter what anyone says it will not change the fact that I will remain unemployed for the rest of my life. Positive thinking and self help books change nothing, you are either employed or unemployed. 

Last edited by Dark_Lord_2008 - on 14 April 2019