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Kerotan said:
Snoopy said:

Yep, and you still have to be a part of the Microsoft ecosystem and give them money. Also, Microsoft xbox exclusives, for the most part, don't sell well on PC.Hell, Halo Wars an RTS did better on xbox apparently lol. Which is the reason why I don't understand why Microsoft put exclusive games on PC, but not on Xbox. I know there will be a huge demand for gears tactics on xbox. 

I agree as part of the eco system but it won't be exclusive to their next console. It's far more valuable to have them game on the console then the pc. They pay XBL and buy their 3rd party games there. 

I know sales had been bad but now every game including halo, gears and Forza will go to pc so ite3a legitimate option to never buy the console. Plus they'll save every year not paying for online. 

But you also have to consider there is a massive audience around the world that simply won't buy a Xbox.

Whether it be people who invest in a powerful gaming PC or just live in a country where consoles aren't popular. That means MS can either make their games available to significantly more people by supporting PC, or keep their games exclusive to the console a vast majority of sales are in a few countries.

Other benefits of supporting Windows with Xbox games is increasing revenue to create more games, more people now using the Windows store and again appealing to audiences that use PC as their preferred platform thus avoid consoles.

Looking at Steamspy, its also worth noting that some games like State of Decay, Halo Wars, Hellblade, Ryse and Quantum Break did well there. Then there are some games that really only appeal to the PC audience like Age of Empires, which does massive numbers on PC. If MS decides to fund something like Alan Wake 2, I would thank the PC audience for that because it was a hit there.

Ultimately, I don't think there is proof that putting games on PC has a huge impact on Xbox sales. Whether or not it does, the benefit of supporting PC is likely greater than the lost Xbox sales. Also, if MS can manage to get a few million people using Game Pass on PC as they bolster their first party output, then maybe supporting PC becomes a great source for revenue.

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danno_omen said:
Honestly if the console gets released in september/october 2020 i would imagine the only launch titles we will get is halo and forza.Maybe a game like Screamride/Zoo Tycoon type exclusive to try and get some of the younger demo. I can't see them releasing a whole bunch of exclusives all at once. Now if were talking within a year of release id imagine Ninja Theory's game and possible the rumoured Fable will be out early that next year

For a launch a major Halo release and a Forza built for 9th gen would be great. Lets remember the 8th gen consoles didn't have amazing launch titles per se, they were bolstered by 3rd party games like CoD, BF4, AC4, etc. However, I think MS's next console is gonna launch with crossgen in mind. I really don't see the next Halo skipping Xbox One/X.

But you're also assuming MS doesn't have other games planned for 2020 currently in development now. I mean MS is gonna be at E3, certainly they some games announce? Also, has MS stopped working with 3rd parties? Maybe some games planned could be from other studios.

Anywho, MS gave the impression they're not interested in generations per se. So all upcoming games at the moment may be for current and next gen.



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danno_omen said:
Soren0079 said:

I'm sure there are many second party studios Microsoft use that they don't own.

Here's a list:
USA
Certain Affinity - (Halo 4, Halo: The Master Chief Collection & not released anything in two years)
Iron Galaxy - (Killer Instinct but recently made a 2018 multiplat)
Armature - (Recore)
Playful - Super Lucky's Tale

Europe
Creative Assembly - Halo Wars 2(Sold poorly so unlikely)
Dlala Studios - Battletoads (Not done yet)
Remedy Entertainment - (Made Quantam Break but busy with a multiplat now)
Ruffian Games - Crackdown 3 (Not done yet)
Sumo Digital - Carckdown 3 (Not done yet)
Moon Studios - Ori & The Will Of The Wisps (Not done yet)
Asobo - Recore

Canada
Skybox - Halo Infinite (Not done yet)
Relic - Age of Empires IV (Not done yet)

They also use Frontier a decent amount,did Screamride,Zoo Tycoon and a bunch of kinect games.

Ah yea but they made Jurrassic Evolution recently which was big hit so I doubt they'll avoid doing a sequel to work with Microsoft but who knows.



Is Moon Studios one of Microsoft's 1st Party Studios?

"In 2011, Moon Studios became a Microsoft First Party Developer and is now working on Ori and the Will of the Wisps."

https://www.orithegame.com/moon-studios/



Mr Puggsly said:
danno_omen said:
Honestly if the console gets released in september/october 2020 i would imagine the only launch titles we will get is halo and forza.Maybe a game like Screamride/Zoo Tycoon type exclusive to try and get some of the younger demo. I can't see them releasing a whole bunch of exclusives all at once. Now if were talking within a year of release id imagine Ninja Theory's game and possible the rumoured Fable will be out early that next year

For a launch a major Halo release and a Forza built for 9th gen would be great. Lets remember the 8th gen consoles didn't have amazing launch titles per se, they were bolstered by 3rd party games like CoD, BF4, AC4, etc. However, I think MS's next console is gonna launch with crossgen in mind. I really don't see the next Halo skipping Xbox One/X.

But you're also assuming MS doesn't have other games planned for 2020 currently in development now. I mean MS is gonna be at E3, certainly they some games announce? Also, has MS stopped working with 3rd parties? Maybe some games planned could be from other studios.

Anywho, MS gave the impression they're not interested in generations per se. So all upcoming games at the moment may be for current and next gen.

Oh im sure Halo and forza and just about everything else will also be on at the very least X. I think at some point the power of the One/S will cause next gen games to stop working on those consoles at some point. And usually a console only releases with a couple exclusives at most and then depends on third party. I think MS wont make the mistake of last gen of releasing these smaller titles at launch like Ryse,and will come out swinging with Halo and Forza,there two biggest exclusives other than Gears obviously,but with Gears being 2019 it wont be a launch title unless they double dip.

 

As for other titles not announced yet for 2020,it all depends on there strategy. If the console comes out in lets say october and Compulsion games has a release for the X in April im not entirely sure if they'd then re release it with the Scarlett branding,even though it is more than likely backwards compatible anyway. And im sure they will have other third party support but im not gonna sit here and think about what every publisher is going to put out around holiday 2020. Hard enough to predict just MS lol



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danno_omen said:
Mr Puggsly said:

For a launch a major Halo release and a Forza built for 9th gen would be great. Lets remember the 8th gen consoles didn't have amazing launch titles per se, they were bolstered by 3rd party games like CoD, BF4, AC4, etc. However, I think MS's next console is gonna launch with crossgen in mind. I really don't see the next Halo skipping Xbox One/X.

But you're also assuming MS doesn't have other games planned for 2020 currently in development now. I mean MS is gonna be at E3, certainly they some games announce? Also, has MS stopped working with 3rd parties? Maybe some games planned could be from other studios.

Anywho, MS gave the impression they're not interested in generations per se. So all upcoming games at the moment may be for current and next gen.

Oh im sure Halo and forza and just about everything else will also be on at the very least X. I think at some point the power of the One/S will cause next gen games to stop working on those consoles at some point. And usually a console only releases with a couple exclusives at most and then depends on third party. I think MS wont make the mistake of last gen of releasing these smaller titles at launch like Ryse,and will come out swinging with Halo and Forza,there two biggest exclusives other than Gears obviously,but with Gears being 2019 it wont be a launch title unless they double dip.

As for other titles not announced yet for 2020,it all depends on there strategy. If the console comes out in lets say october and Compulsion games has a release for the X in April im not entirely sure if they'd then re release it with the Scarlett branding,even though it is more than likely backwards compatible anyway. And im sure they will have other third party support but im not gonna sit here and think about what every publisher is going to put out around holiday 2020. Hard enough to predict just MS lol

You're making an assumption I have as well, the X1X could be supported in the future while ending base X1 support. But If a game can function well on the Xbox One X, then it should be playable on a base Xbox One. Maybe it will require a dynamic resolution that goes below 720p, maybe it will struggle for 30 fps and maybe the graphics settings will be put to low/medium, but if it works on the X1X then it should be playable on a X1.

I think Ryse was actually a notable release in 2013 compared to what else was there. Dead Rising 3 was a better game but very unpolished, Forza 5 was nice but not a vast improvement over Forza 4 unless you really compared the assets. Ryse is a great looking game that showed off the potential of 8th gen graphics and was relatively fun story driven game. Its a shame they didn't spend more time patching bugs even though it sold well.

Its safe to assume Xbox One games releasing in 2020 will be prepared to support the superior specs of the next console. While some games will certainly be patched like Gears of War 5, maybe Halo 5, etc.



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Mr Puggsly said:
danno_omen said:

Oh im sure Halo and forza and just about everything else will also be on at the very least X. I think at some point the power of the One/S will cause next gen games to stop working on those consoles at some point. And usually a console only releases with a couple exclusives at most and then depends on third party. I think MS wont make the mistake of last gen of releasing these smaller titles at launch like Ryse,and will come out swinging with Halo and Forza,there two biggest exclusives other than Gears obviously,but with Gears being 2019 it wont be a launch title unless they double dip.

As for other titles not announced yet for 2020,it all depends on there strategy. If the console comes out in lets say october and Compulsion games has a release for the X in April im not entirely sure if they'd then re release it with the Scarlett branding,even though it is more than likely backwards compatible anyway. And im sure they will have other third party support but im not gonna sit here and think about what every publisher is going to put out around holiday 2020. Hard enough to predict just MS lol

You're making an assumption I have as well, the X1X could be supported in the future while ending base X1 support. But If a game can function well on the Xbox One X, then it should be playable on a base Xbox One. Maybe it will require a dynamic resolution that goes below 720p, maybe it will struggle for 30 fps and maybe the graphics settings will be put to low/medium, but if it works on the X1X then it should be playable on a X1.

I think Ryse was actually a notable release in 2013 compared to what else was there. Dead Rising 3 was a better game but very unpolished, Forza 5 was nice but not a vast improvement over Forza 4 unless you really compared the assets. Ryse is a great looking game that showed off the potential of 8th gen graphics and was relatively fun story driven game. Its a shame they didn't spend more time patching bugs even though it sold well.

Its safe to assume Xbox One games releasing in 2020 will be prepared to support the superior specs of the next console. While some games will certainly be patched like Gears of War 5, maybe Halo 5, etc.

I'm not as sure as you are. At some point you have to stop making essentially 3 different versions of the game. Sure games that run on the X now can run on the One,but when next gen comes out the X will be the inferior version and then the One will essentially be what the 360 is to games now. I just cant see a dev making a game that runs on a console that outdated beyond maybe the first party games



danno_omen said:
Mr Puggsly said:

You're making an assumption I have as well, the X1X could be supported in the future while ending base X1 support. But If a game can function well on the Xbox One X, then it should be playable on a base Xbox One. Maybe it will require a dynamic resolution that goes below 720p, maybe it will struggle for 30 fps and maybe the graphics settings will be put to low/medium, but if it works on the X1X then it should be playable on a X1.

I think Ryse was actually a notable release in 2013 compared to what else was there. Dead Rising 3 was a better game but very unpolished, Forza 5 was nice but not a vast improvement over Forza 4 unless you really compared the assets. Ryse is a great looking game that showed off the potential of 8th gen graphics and was relatively fun story driven game. Its a shame they didn't spend more time patching bugs even though it sold well.

Its safe to assume Xbox One games releasing in 2020 will be prepared to support the superior specs of the next console. While some games will certainly be patched like Gears of War 5, maybe Halo 5, etc.

I'm not as sure as you are. At some point you have to stop making essentially 3 different versions of the game. Sure games that run on the X now can run on the One,but when next gen comes out the X will be the inferior version and then the One will essentially be what the 360 is to games now. I just cant see a dev making a game that runs on a console that outdated beyond maybe the first party games

Well its more like two versions, all X1 games work on the X1X whether or not they utilize the specs. They give the impression supporting the specs of X1X is relatively easy though.

In my head I see it like this. If any game can function on X1X at 1440p-4K and isn't bottlenecked severely on the CPU, then GPU and CPU isn't much of barrier on a base X1 because they could reduce the resolution and other visual settings.

However, if we see games that push the X1X to 1080p/30 fps and exhausting all of the 9GB of RAM with medium graphics settings, then supporting the base X1 becomes a struggle.

Then its also worth considering most games aren't exactly cutting edge if you look at the entire library of every current console. At the very least that means more simplistic and less demanding support could continue for a long time. For example, there are countless indie games that could function on 7th gen hardware but they just aren't worth the effort to port.



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