JRPGfan said:
Legit question..... . If Nintendo Servers stay Peer to peer.... same as its always been,... why should you have to pay for it now? With MS and Sony they atleast put up servers to offload that stuff and improve experiances, and thats part of what the money goes towards.
Supposedly there arnt any dedicated servers from Nintendo side, for online gameing.
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Sony's service is also P2P even after PS Plus (source:https://www.finder.com.au/gaming/what-is-the-playstation-network#servers). Of course on both Nintendo and Sony platforms third-parties can host stuff on their own dedicated servers. I believe MS is the only ones that use dedicated servers. Also, dedicated servers do not magically make games run better; it all depends on the implementation. If you have lots of server farms in each region then a dedicated server setup works well (in that regard MS has a huge advantage over both Sony and particularly Nintendo, since they are in the cloud business for things outside of Xbox Live). However, if your dedicated servers are few and far between then anyone living further away from them will have lag and stability issues that in many cases would be worse than a peer to peer connection.
JRPGfan said:
Also: The voice chat thingy..... use a smart phone why dont'ca?
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I fully agree with you on that one. The thing is there are Switch games that do voice chat on the system itself, so I have no idea why they went that route. It is not an anti-consumer move, just an incompetent one.
JRPGfan said:
Also: Save data deleted once your subscription runs out
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Sony does the same thing after a 6 month grace period. Nintendo also has a grace period it is just not specified. Also, in both cases your save data is still on your Switch and PS4 (unless the system breaks just as the grace period runs out).
JRPGfan said:
Also: 20 old nes games,..... because nintendo cant bother giveing people current experiances.
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You are paying $20 versus $60 (not to mention 8 users can get a family plan for $35). The games that you get on these services are licensed, and naturally newer games cost more. So the less you pay the less you get. In addition, Nintendo is only starting with 20 NES more have already been announced (and they initially even said that they might expand the service to other systems, including SNES though they did not give concrete details).
JRPGfan said:
Also: nes games locked behinde a 7day login DRM mechanism (ei. even with subscription on, if you remain offline for 7days they stop working)
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It is a subscription service. Even Xbox Gamepass and PS Plus (Live Gold also does the same, but not for the games you get through it since you can keep those forever) do periodic checks on the internet to ensure you are subscribed. In all cases if you have not checked into the internet within a certain period then you lose access to the games you got on each respective service (again Xbox Live Gold being an exception).
JRPGfan said:
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nes controller..... that you can only buy when your a subscription member...... that stops working if your subscription runs out?? wut?
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They probably locked them behind the subscription service and limited the number you can buy because of scalpers as these appear to be heavily targeted to collectors. Beyond that I don't see much other use for these controllers, as they specifically mention that they are for the NES classic collection (which is part of the subscription plan). Considering you can use just about any other controllers with the NES games (including first-party, licensed, and unofficial), I don't think the existence of these controllers is really scandalous. Of course Nintendo could have opted to make them optionally compatible with other games hence making them more appealing. Though there is also a caveat here, currently Nintendo of UK and Australia are saying that the NES controllers will only work with the subscription-based NES collection while Nintendo of America has not posted a similar disclaimer yet. It should be noted that Nintendo of UK and Australia also made a similar statement regarding the Pokken DX Pro Pad, which ended up working with other games (so long as obviously they only needed four face buttons and a dpad). In addition, it is also possible that Nintendo may offer the NES collection of games for sale after the online service ends or if they move onto offering another classic system's library instead (hence allowing the controllers to work after the subscription). As usual, lack of communication from Nintendo does leave a lot unanswered about these controllers at the moment.
Last edited by nemo37 - on 19 September 2018