PAT TILLMAN
some who sacrificed everything!
steve
sacrificed nothing, been on nike payroll since 2011. that fucking fake ass shithead.
i havent bought nikes in years so it affects me not, but i still dont watch or give a shit about the NFL. fuck malcontent millionaires.
2zosteven said:
he opted out of his contract, not fired |
Even if he were fired, it would have been due to him not being any good anymore. His stats and win/loss record went to shit after a couple of years.
Toss onto him not performing well, the drama he brings to a team for "kneeling" and other stuff, he is not worth signing.
Hell, even Terrel Owens and Chad Ochocinco have/had a limited pool of teams willing to sign them due to the drama they brought with them, and they were at the time of that some of the top players in their position.
Anyone who claims the Colin is being prejudiced against is not a football fan. Even if he never took a knee in his life, I would not be excited if my team signed him. Whether he became washed up or other teams figured him out, he just wasn't any good anymore. A back-up at best.
Saw the Nike ad with Colin DURING the NFL game. It makes laugh by just how mad the NFL got/ will get about that ad.
SpokenTruth said: KLAMarine, you are providing a great exemplar of privilege. You are asking for instances where whites chiding blacks for protesting in various forms. |
I don't believe I did. I believe what I asked for is "people who are against protesting through ALL of the following means: looting, wearing a shirt, marching with signs, kneeling during a game, speaking during a play, and during a graduation."
I made no mention of skin color because that's of no relevance to me.
SpokenTruth said: This tells you me you are not subject to it, that you have not had to experience it, that you don't have to alter your actions, attitude, perspective, life, based around the indignity and irrationalities of another race. |
Prove it.
SpokenTruth said: Black people get told how to protest (and how to act, think, dress, speak, etc...) so that they don't frustrate white people. |
Happens to white people too. I would upload MTV's video but I believe they have taken it down so here's h3h3's reaction to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IewlAi7dA
Going back to this image, it seems to me that the author/s who is/are responsible for this image (and to a lesser degree, those who post it):
SpokenTruth said: |
are more upset they're getting feedback than upset at the actual feedback itself. Perhaps upset they're getting it from "Whitey McSportsfan" as well? Maybe they hate it's "whitey" who's doing it?
Admittedly, a lot of this is speculation on my part but I can't do much more without knowing who the author/s was/were...
irstupid said:
That pic is misleading, because the people bitching about one pic may not be the same ones bitching about another. With internet these days, there will be people bitching about any and everything, so that pic you posted works for anything. As for the breakdown of why someone might bitch, here are my two thoughts. Pic 1. Rioting: Need I explain this one? Pic 2 & 4. Protesting during a sporting event. Sporting events are where people go to escape. They may not want protests thrown at them when they are watching their favorite sport. How would you like it if in the Spiderman or Last of Us game there was a protest in it, or lots of NPC's wearing I Can't Breathe Shirts. I would be annoyed, imo. It's similar to the Nike situation right now. If I go out in public wearing Nike's right now, many people may see that as me supporting an agenda of some sort. My shoes whether I care of not became part of a statement. I no longer can just wear Nike's cause I like the brand, the fit, or the style. People will think because I'm wearing them that I support Colin, am against cops, support kneeling, hate American, ect. Whatever that person may think my shoes represent. Pic 3. Not sure what that pic is showing, but two possible reasons for bitching. Pic 5. If I recall, that pic is of a play where the cast stood and berated an audience member from a party they did not agree with. Do you agree with that. Are you a supporter of the people that go and harass members of a party you dislike when they are out at a play or eating at a restaurant? Pic 6. No idea what that is. Looks like a pic of a graduating class. |
I'm assuming this pic had one author and it's one speaker speaking.
Last edited by KLAMarine - on 08 September 2018Nike doesn't want crusty old white folk buying their stuff because BRAND and they know race-baiting/capitalising on divisions is worth millions in free advertising.
As a cool headed libertarian, it's funny seeing everyone get played by a billion dollar corporation. Especially one who sells them $5 worth of product for 10-20 times the price.
The left are lauding a 'capitalist'/slave labour (lol) organisation because...race stuff.
The right are denouncing sweatshops. I thought Republicans/the Rght were fans of Milton Friedman and understood economics/comparitive advantage?
Kneeling has never been a sign of disrespect but not 'conforming' to the national anthem has, so I can see where the misunderstanding stems from.
Colin should have hosted autograph sessions and engaged with fans in the build up to his protest explaining what and why he was doing what he did (maybe he did, i haven't followed closely). As long as the team's/his fans understood what he was doing, that's all that matters.
But why would he do that when some clever, rich corporations have realised that pushing racial division/tension will lead to trending first on twitter?
Big business knows that turning their customers into acolytes/disciples means everyone can engage in 'war' on a small scale (eg console wars).
This allows any company to engage and profit from a small scale version of the military-industrial complex and reap the benefits.
Humans are built for war/competition and will engage in it on any level if given the chance, regardless of how noble that cause is or how good our current situation is.
The Nike issue is nothing but another cold war conflict in the identity politics/black-white/immigration/islam game.
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If this ad is to be believed. Sporting heroes can be compared to war heroes that have fought and died for freedom and democracy!
SpokenTruth said: Nike released a new advertising campaign featuring former NFL QB Colin Kaepernick. The campaign is based around the following slogan, "Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything." Nike's stock dropped by 3% overnight due to backlash by those offended by Nike featuring Kaepernick. It has started a slight rebound today. Others have protested by setting Nike shoes on fire or cutting out the Nike 'swoosh' logo from their clothes. |
https://youtu.be/flcLcp56tHg?t=4m27s
This is the video that explains the better, why this campaign is so FU(KED UP
Dont know how to embbed video
Dark_Lord_2008 said: If this ad is to be believed. Sporting heroes can be compared to war heroes that have fought and died for freedom and democracy! |
It is funny that you say this because the ad seems to not even imply this at all. It states you should strive for something even if it means costing you everything. That seems a very straightforward point to me. Be willing to give everything for what you want most or believe in most. Last time I checked, war heroes were getting paid for their service so being in the military or armed forces is also a business decision which, when put into context, is certainly not heroic. Not that I am to disrespect anyone in the armed forces, just stating a fact.
I mean, Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, and Jesus Christ were not in any military and yet they sacrificed their lives for the things they believed in. The ad suggests you be ready to lose everything, not that you HAVE TO LOSE everything. Colin Kaepernick did not lose everything but he did lose a lot and was willing to lose everything. If you believe in something as much as he does, then you should be prepared to lose everything as well. Otherwise, you are likely to back down when the pressure mounts. This should stand for the left, the right, the center, Muslims, Christians, Jews, musicians, athletes, comedians, or anyone in the world. Be ready for the sacrifice because it can hit hard. I like the message when kept in its context.
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GhaudePhaede010 said:
It is funny that you say this because the ad seems to not even imply this at all. It states you should strive for something even if it means costing you everything. That seems a very straightforward point to me. Be willing to give everything for what you want most or believe in most. Last time I checked, war heroes were getting paid for their service so being in the military or armed forces is also a business decision which, when put into context, is certainly not heroic. Not that I am to disrespect anyone in the armed forces, just stating a fact. I mean, Martin Luther King Jr., Gandhi, and Jesus Christ were not in any military and yet they sacrificed their lives for the things they believed in. The ad suggests you be ready to lose everything, not that you HAVE TO LOSE everything. Colin Kaepernick did not lose everything but he did lose a lot and was willing to lose everything. If you believe in something as much as he does, then you should be prepared to lose everything as well. Otherwise, you are likely to back down when the pressure mounts. This should stand for the left, the right, the center, Muslims, Christians, Jews, musicians, athletes, comedians, or anyone in the world. Be ready for the sacrifice because it can hit hard. I like the message when kept in its context. |
I see what you're saying but I just happen to find the words themselves juxtaposed to the big money the marketing deal must surely be going Kaepernick's way...
Perhaps better wording could have been found?