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morenoingrato said:
Ha! I love how you left out the most crucial details and made it sound as if kids could spontaneously self-euthanize.

Well it wouldn't sound so dramatic and clickbaity if the actual details were included now would it?

Here in Ireland we can bring loved ones to a doctor even if they're not consenting or aware and sign off to have them euthanized, they don't even get a say in it if they've been injured and some doctors will even offer to euthanize if you are moving to accommodation which doesn't suit having some members in the family even if they're healthy.

how do vets even sleep at night?....



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It is possible for children to request euthanasia since 2014. It has been applied 3 times since then.
It is only being used as a last resort when every other treatment has failed and with the criteria mentioned above.
It is about letting people die with dignity in the proximity of their loved ones when all solutions deem hopeless, rather than giving an exit to every child struck with weltschmerz which would be the real insanity.



Sometimes Eutanizing is the more humane thing to do. There are plenty of decreases which are uncurable and cause a very slow and painful death. If the patiënt and there relatives and the medical is in agreement eutanizing the patiënt is the best outcome. Even if said patiënt is a minor.



Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar

I think if you look at the criteria it's totally reasonable what Belgium does here.



Don't know much about Belgium's policies on this issue, but the high-profile cases in the UK of doctors and courts ordering parents to let their toddlers die really upset me. When the child can't even talk yet there's no way to get 'consent' to pull the plug, and when the parents want to continue treatment and another hospital is willing to take the patient why not allow it instead of fighting for a 2-year-old's 'right to die with dignity,' which apparently means withholding food as well as life support.



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h2ohno said:
Don't know much about Belgium's policies on this issue, but the high-profile cases in the UK of doctors and courts ordering parents to let their toddlers die really upset me. When the child can't even talk yet there's no way to get 'consent' to pull the plug, and when the parents want to continue treatment and another hospital is willing to take the patient why not allow it instead of fighting for a 2-year-old's 'right to die with dignity,' which apparently means withholding food as well as life support.

Insane cases like that of Alfie Evans don't happen in Belgium as far as I am aware. 



Anyhow, Belgium doesn't exist, so this whole issue is just philosophy.   



https://zapatopi.net/belgium/



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RolStoppable said:
Sounds all-around reasonable what the Belgians are doing. Criteria that need to be met:

1. Parents, doctors and psychologists must agree.
2. Child must have been capable of rational thinking when making the call.
3. Child must be in the final stage of an uncureable disease.

Really, this is something that every country should have.

This. End of thread



Even as someone who only really supports palliative sedation as an end-of-life treatment, the criteria are still quite strict.
What is more concerning is the moves being made to extend euthanasia to people who are mentally ill (which many psychologists reacted negatively towards) and the discussion around extending euthanasia to people who are simply "sick of life".



Alby_da_Wolf said:

Anyhow, Belgium doesn't exist, so this whole issue is just philosophy.   



https://zapatopi.net/belgium/

Exert out of the Link:"If Belgium doesn't exist, then what's in its location on the map?

There is nothing there! France shares a border with the Netherlands. Notice how Belgium is depicted as being wedge shaped? They simply pulled apart the French border from the coast all the way to Luxembourg and slipped Belgium in."

Wish that was true, we live in a town bordering Belgium, without Belgium we'd live right next to the beach ^^