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Sony first Party games sales, A huge leap from PS3 era. ( Entered Ninty Level ) Update: GOW at 10m & Uncharted 4 16M

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Don't forget that on PS4 sony games have to face third AAA party games, on switch except nintendo games it's nothingness on the third side, so people only buy nintendo on it.



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Evilms said:
Don't forget that on PS4 sony games have to face third AAA party games, on switch except nintendo games it's nothingness on the third side, so people only buy nintendo on it.

Although their presence isn't as strong as it is on the PS4, there are quite a few AAA multiplats that have made their way to the Switch (and, I would assume they're selling enough to justify a continuance). 

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CGI-Quality said:
Evilms said:
Don't forget that on PS4 sony games have to face third AAA party games, on switch except nintendo games it's nothingness on the third side, so people only buy nintendo on it.

Although their presence isn't as strong as it is on the PS4, there are quite a few AAA multiplats that have made their way to the Switch (and, I would assume they're selling enough to justify a continuance). 

I know, I'm just pointing out that on PS4 there are so many games that people are forced to make a choice. On Switch the question is not asked people mainly buy Nintendo games on it, because not too much choice for AAA third party.



Evilms said:
Don't forget that on PS4 sony games have to face third AAA party games, on switch except nintendo games it's nothingness on the third side, so people only buy nintendo on it.

I think this same fallacy has popped up in this thread before.

The AAA third party games play a crucial role in increasing the installed base of the PS4, so calling their presence a disadvantage doesn't make sense. With that kind of logic, Sony's first party games should have killed it on Vita because there were hardly any big third party titles.

While the absence of big third party titles might seem like an advantage for first party game sales, it actually comes with the disadvantage that first party games do not only have to justify their own price tag, but also the one of the console itself. The 3DS had several Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch and Dragon Quest games, but also much higher first party game sales than the Wii U.

So regardless of looking at Sony or Nintendo consoles, the conclusion is that better third party support results in higher sales for first party games, simply because the size of the installed base is much higher with good third party support than without it.



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Evilms said:
Don't forget that on PS4 sony games have to face third AAA party games, on switch except nintendo games it's nothingness on the third side, so people only buy nintendo on it.

I thought this was about 1st part game sales...huh. Strange some off topic is allowed and some isn't. 



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Ljink96 said:
Evilms said:
Don't forget that on PS4 sony games have to face third AAA party games, on switch except nintendo games it's nothingness on the third side, so people only buy nintendo on it.

I thought this was about 1st part game sales...huh. Strange some off topic is allowed and some isn't. 

So the potential error can be corrected, how was Evilms' post treated any different from other posts that can be seen as off-topic?



                                                                                                                                            

Well holy shit those numbers are pretty damn impressive for Sony. I came in thinking they are not close to Nintendo first party and then I saw the op.



Dude my answer is for those who come to denigrate and minimize the performance of sony games, because apart from the wii u remasters, the hd porting of ps2/ps3/vita games and X360 plus a few rare PS4/XB1/PC games the observation is that there is nothing new in third party AAA on switch and that's a fact. 90% of big budget games do not come out on swicth unlike the PS4.

So PS4 games under the circumstances make excellent results. On the switch buy nintendo it is a default choice.



Evilms said:
CGI-Quality said:

Although their presence isn't as strong as it is on the PS4, there are quite a few AA multiplats that have made their way to the Switch (and, I would assume they're selling enough to justify a continuance). 

I know, I'm just pointing out that on PS4 there are so many games that people are forced to make a choice. On Switch the question is not asked people mainly buy Nintendo games on it, because not too much choice for AAA third party.

Just in 2018.....Monster Hunter World, Far Cry 5, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Call of Duty Black Ops IIII, Red Dead Redemption II, Battlefield V, Fallout 76, FIFA 19, NBA 2k19, Madden NFL 19 (yeah i know some of them are on Switch too but not even close at the same level), ....

And just in the first half of 2019....Kingdom Hearts III, Resident Evil 2 Remake, Sekiro, The Division 2, Anthem, Devil May Cry 5, ....

The competion a game like GOW has to face in PS4 is not even close to an exclusive Nintendo game on Switch. Most of those games launch even in the same month. When you buy Switch AAA games it's usually the only game of that level in that month, and most probably is the first one in months to lauch too. a PS4 owner, usually can't afford to buy 6 or 7 games in a period of 2 or 3 months (like it happens every year in the holiday season), so some people are going to buy game A, others are going to buy game B and others are going to buy game C (and most of them, because they want that other game, are going to wait a price cut to buy that game), while on Switch is more easy that most users buy game A at the same time. 

Edit: and the reason exclusive games on PS Vita didn't work, was because the console did not have good AAA games like PSP, PS3 or PS4 have, period. If PSV had a The Last of Us kind of game, a God of War, a Spiderman, a Horizon, and the support of 3rd parties with as successful games as in PS3 or PS4, PSV would've been a success like PSP too, but it wasn't.

If the next PS5 launched with the same support for 3rd parties as Switch, i'm pretty convinced the exclusives like GOW 2, Spiderman 2 or Horizon 2 would sell the same, but PS5 would drop like in half the sales....That's what makes PS home console much more succesful than Nintendo ones...., and it's that 3rd party support.

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CGI-Quality said:
Ljink96 said:

I thought this was about 1st part game sales...huh. Strange some off topic is allowed and some isn't. 

So the error can be potentially be corrected, how was Evilms' post treated any different from other posts that can be seen as off-topic?

"Given the context of the thread (unit sales of 1st party titles), it isn't an important question to ask."

vs.

"Although their presence isn't as strong as it is on the PS4, there are quite a few AAA multiplats that have made their way to the Switch (and, I would assume they're selling enough to justify a continuance)."

I dunno, Both are off topic, but I feel the responses are differing in nature, but hey maybe that's just me. The VGChartz mod team I knew really didn't like off topic posts.