Uh...that's not true. With this way of thinking we can compare sales in blood to compare where Sony was a generation ago, where they are now, compared to where Nintendo was a generation ago to where they are now. Including 3rd party sales is only speculation. I simply don't see how you're expecting me to get on board with speculation, I have to decline. I'm discussing what the thread title is, not the entirety of the site...

Are you suggesting that the overwhelming response to Fifa 19 on Switch did wonders for Super Mario Party sales? Because if so, what's the data behind that? When you want to understand the "why things happen" you generally need data which uh...you don't have and to be honest, nobody here has. Why did Super Mario Party sell 6.4M Units...well I guess maybe because it had better marketing, was a decently reviewed game and on a popular device. Sitting here trying to make up data is to me quite worthless. This is generally the work of software analysts doing empirical work, not some blokes on a forum with all due respect of course. 

Nah I disagree.....stating that Sony has reached Nin levels is indeed true. The Switch for Nintendo......much like the PS4 did for Sony just shot their 1st party sales even higher. And that is a Freaking great thing! Sony reached Nin level sales for every home console before the Switch including the MONSTER that was the Wii....outside of the Wiisports/fitness games of course which just sold absolute butt loads for whatever reason lol.

And I am not sure if the PS4 will have any 20m plus sellers but they will definitely have multiple 15m plus sellers when all is said and done just like Nin will along with the 10m plus sellers so not sure why you say Sony isn't going to touch that with their PS4 games when they already are outside of the 20m plus lol.

So no accomplishments were undone at all imo. Both just have some amazing 1st party sales! And the Switch just raised the bar for Nintendo! All good for both in my book!

We get so many petty comments every time this thread is updated. OP should consider removing the unnecessary comparison to Nintendo.

OT: SIE's 1st parties have come a long way this gen.

The Last of Us: Remastered - over 10M
Uncharted 4 - over 15M
God of War - over 10M
Horizon: Zero Dawn - over 10M
Spider-Man - over 9M

What PS4 exclusive will/has reach 10 million at full price? The only one that has a chance is TLOU2. It was your question, so I'm not understanding what you mean by whats your point.

I agree that they are getting closer, but I disagree that they reached/enter Nintendo's level(as stated by the thread title). 

In terms of what has sold more than 15 or 10 million, it is weird to compare them for a system that is less than 2 and a half years old. At this point, ps4 didn't even get its first huge first party game in uncharted. Uncharted or TLOU might crawl to 20 million, but then we have switch games like MK8 or Smash that will reach even more than that. But good in their own regards, but not on equal footing. PS5 should solve that 

That comes down to the question which company and which console has more gas left in the tank.

The PS4 is approaching the end of relevant first party support while Switch has yet to reach the midway point of its lifecycle, so there shouldn't be any doubt that from this point going forward Nintendo will release many more Switch games than Sony will release games for the PS4.

The same thing also ties into the question how much time the games of each console have left to leg it out and increase their individual totals, hence why the numbers I posted in parantheses are important. Once you begin to make estimates for where the Nintendo games might end up at, you'll be looking at numbers that put Sony's PS4 games significantly behind.

If you put Switch games side by side to PS4 games, Switch already has a slight advantage. If you then consider the strength of legs of the titles, then the conclusion can't be anything other than Nintendo's advantage is going to grow.

To be precise i said 15M at full price, not 10M but if you ask. Spiderman last year was really close. And what i meant is that you are saying Switch still has games to come that can sell 10+ or 15+ M sold and i tell PS4 it's the same, so what's the point in saying that then?

What an excuse using install base to say that Switch has an disadvantage...I expect all you saying this same thing in 2019 saying that the next Mario 3D, the next Zelda 3D, selling worse then being a complete failure in a few years because Switch will be twice the install base then.....We'll see what you say then, because name me a sequel or next game in the franchise in the same console that sold better than the previous one in Nintendo history. Again, if you can find it, please name it.

Since 2012 when WiiU started, Nintendo has had the next home console games reaching 10M or more:

- Mario Kart 8 WiiU + Mario Kart 8 DX Switch = around 20-25M shipped at the moment

- Super Mario Odyssey = around 15M shipped

- The Legend of Zelda WiiU+Switch = 14-15M shipped

- Super Smash Bros Ultimate = around 14M shipped

- Pokemon Let's Go = around 11M shipped

So i count 5 games.

Already launched games candidates to reach 10M+ in the future: Splatoon 2 with around 9M shipped, maybe Super Mario Party 

Announced games yet to launch candidates to reach 10M+ in the future: Pokemon Sword&Shield, Animal Crossing, maybe Super Mario Maker 2

If i count those you can add 3, 4, maybe 5 games in the next 2 years possibly.

Now compare to Sony since 2012:

- The Last of Us PS3+PS4 = 20M sold

- Uncharted 4 = 16M sold

- God of War = 11M sold

- Horizon Zero Dawn = more than 10M sold

- Spider-Man = probably close to 11-12M sold at least (9M sold before December last year)

That's 5 games too.

Already launched games candidates to reach 10M+ in the future: Gran Turismo Sport 7'5M players, probably more than 6M sold (but if you don't want to count this, it's fair), Days Gone (recently launched but it's doing Horizon Zero Dawn numbers at launch)

Announced games yet to launch candidates to reach 10M+ in the future: The Last of Us Part II, Ghosts of Tsushima, maybe Death Stranding.

So maybe 3 o 4 more games in the next years coming to that milestone too.

So...., how is Sony studios not reaching Nintendo levels this last gen?? To me, the people saying no are just in denial mode....

Not to be that guy but he did say in the last 20yrs on a Home console without pricecuts/bundles not only the Switch. Which very well MAY have multiple 15m sellers without pricecut we won't know until later on. But with Pokemon and Animal crossing I think those 2 are the ones that will potentially do it. But if either has a bundle then that will automatically throw that out the window smh.

Personally I can't see how people are not seeing Nintendo levels with everything listed especially Uncharted 4. Heck outside of the Wiisports/fit etc games and New Super Mario Bros Wii and Mario Kart Wii there were only like 2 Wii games on a 100 million plus user base that sold more than 10 million. So we can't really say "It's really to be expected on a near 100M+ base" Because that is just not the case.

I don't think ANYONE has disputed that the Switch software numbers are amazing. And the Salty comment came from some user saying that silly statement about not being at Nintendo levels because it was not done at full price which was just ridiculous. I also don't think anyone decided anything about how many 1st party 10 million plus sellers  would have just yet.

But I agree the console war talk is silly and definitely needs to stop but it is what makes things fun at the same time....a little FRIENDLY competition here and there but some folks just go over board man and it sucks smh.