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DonFerrari said:
DélioPT said:

"Based on what they were (…)" 
You can't expect people who tell others to follow their dreams, to know who they are talking to.
It's easier to give a more personnal advice when you know the person in front of you.

I would say both situations are acceptable, given the context.

As i said before, it's to those who listen to see if what they are dreaming about is something that is actually at their reach or not.

Like "stay at school" or "don't do drugs"?
People know what they are hearing and if they are hollow words, it's up to those who use those expressions. Even if they are used as clichés, the ones who are hearing will probably give it the correct meaning and read it as real motivation.

I can't think of a down side or exaggeration on expectation of results on stay at school and don't do drugs. Still I don't give the advice like that, I prefer to hear the problem and try to work out a solution with the person.

Stay in school, but don't pay attention to the millionaires or billionaires who dropped out, are super successful and are praised up and down. Don't do drugs, yet nations like Canada and slowly America are making at least one of them legal for everyone of age.

Just a short phrase can be extremely misleading if it isn't given enough context. It allows anyone to take what was said in just about any way they deem logical at that point in time, based on their present knowledge.

If you don't know who exactly your talking to when giving advice, then be as insightful as possible based on the present situation, or don't bother. When you know your being given an award for your work, then thank the people you know who helped you get to where you are and leave it there, unless you want to explain how they helped you and why. It's like the guy getting interviewed on the news who witnessed the crime. 'The guy was black' he says. Well, case closed I guess... great work Sherlock... LOL.



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OdinHades said:
I don't know. I alwaysd had the dream of becoming an author. So in 2011 I quit my job and decided to follow that dream. I had some rough years in the beginning for sure. But in the end I did it. I'm not famous or anything, but I get by quite well, I write for newspapers, magazines and I get paid to play video games and write about them. I even wrote some scripts for TV ads! I alwas love it when I buy a magazine and can read my own name under an article. That's what I have been dreaming of for years and it is now a reality.

I didn't stop dreaming though. Right now I'm working to get my first novel published. I think that's doable. Would I have never decided to follow my dreams, I would most likely be flippin' burgers at Mc Donald's until this very day. I mean I was really great at that job. But I wasn't happy. I really don't see anything wrong with following your dreams. Sure, it doesn't always work. But even if you fail, at least you know that you tried and gave it your best shot. If you never try it, you'll never know if you could have succeeded. Like that girl I absolutely adored in school but never had the balls to tell it to her. Maybe I would have married her, if I had just tried. But I will never know.

Tell us your name! 



Marth said:
bugrimmar said:

I don't think so. Anything that requires a high level of skill can't be done by just anybody. Even something like carpentry requires you to be handy. Not everything can be learned even if you put a lot of effort into it.

I disagree. You can learn every skill. You just need the dedication to do so.
Talent only reduces the time to get good at something.

There's just way too much grey area to give up. Most people never even put reasonable time into their "dreams" so it's really an unknown they live with for most of their lives. 



EricHiggin said:
DonFerrari said:

I can't think of a down side or exaggeration on expectation of results on stay at school and don't do drugs. Still I don't give the advice like that, I prefer to hear the problem and try to work out a solution with the person.

Stay in school, but don't pay attention to the millionaires or billionaires who dropped out, are super successful and are praised up and down. Don't do drugs, yet nations like Canada and slowly America are making at least one of them legal for everyone of age.

Just a short phrase can be extremely misleading if it isn't given enough context. It allows anyone to take what was said in just about any way they deem logical at that point in time, based on their present knowledge.

If you don't know who exactly your talking to when giving advice, then be as insightful as possible based on the present situation, or don't bother. When you know your being given an award for your work, then thank the people you know who helped you get to where you are and leave it there, unless you want to explain how they helped you and why. It's like the guy getting interviewed on the news who witnessed the crime. 'The guy was black' he says. Well, case closed I guess... great work Sherlock... LOL.

And you think dropping out of school is what made they successful? And also the percentage of people that will become billionaires is just infimal so telling someone to drop school to follow the steps of a billionaire is ludicrous. And yes drugs may not be illegal in some countries, still doing drugs won't benefit you as teenager.

And I said twice I don't give one phrase advice. I councel based on the case and knowing the person, looking for a solution together.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
EricHiggin said:

Stay in school, but don't pay attention to the millionaires or billionaires who dropped out, are super successful and are praised up and down. Don't do drugs, yet nations like Canada and slowly America are making at least one of them legal for everyone of age.

Just a short phrase can be extremely misleading if it isn't given enough context. It allows anyone to take what was said in just about any way they deem logical at that point in time, based on their present knowledge.

If you don't know who exactly your talking to when giving advice, then be as insightful as possible based on the present situation, or don't bother. When you know your being given an award for your work, then thank the people you know who helped you get to where you are and leave it there, unless you want to explain how they helped you and why. It's like the guy getting interviewed on the news who witnessed the crime. 'The guy was black' he says. Well, case closed I guess... great work Sherlock... LOL.

And you think dropping out of school is what made they successful? And also the percentage of people that will become billionaires is just infimal so telling someone to drop school to follow the steps of a billionaire is ludicrous. And yes drugs may not be illegal in some countries, still doing drugs won't benefit you as teenager.

And I said twice I don't give one phrase advice. I councel based on the case and knowing the person, looking for a solution together.

What if dropping out and following the billionaires path is their dream though?

My response was basically aimed at DelioPT for the most part. You were clear about the fact that you work through a problem based on the situation at hand, which is even better than trying to generalize it for a group.



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EricHiggin said:
DonFerrari said:

And you think dropping out of school is what made they successful? And also the percentage of people that will become billionaires is just infimal so telling someone to drop school to follow the steps of a billionaire is ludicrous. And yes drugs may not be illegal in some countries, still doing drugs won't benefit you as teenager.

And I said twice I don't give one phrase advice. I councel based on the case and knowing the person, looking for a solution together.

What if dropping out and following the billionaires path is their dream though?

My response was basically aimed at DelioPT for the most part. You were clear about the fact that you work through a problem based on the situation at hand, which is even better than trying to generalize it for a group.

I would never advise someone to drop school to follow a billionaire path. I would say having graduation can be an asset for his future doesn't matter the career he chooses, and that if he have an urge to be an enterpreneu he can start doing it while studying (and sure if it bloosom he can then drop school).

Seems like your answer really were more torwards Delio, that is why I found strange that you were like responding disagreeing with me but actually agreeing =]



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

I understand your frustration, but it is those who think with faith and hope that generally go farther with their dreams. If someone IS going to rise above the normal, the chances are much higher to be someone from that subset of society. And all it takes to have that increased chance is to have a perseverance and a belief in oneself. It is also about not having regrets, though sometimes those are unavoidable in retrospect.



DonFerrari said:
EricHiggin said:

What if dropping out and following the billionaires path is their dream though?

My response was basically aimed at DelioPT for the most part. You were clear about the fact that you work through a problem based on the situation at hand, which is even better than trying to generalize it for a group.

I would never advise someone to drop school to follow a billionaire path. I would say having graduation can be an asset for his future doesn't matter the career he chooses, and that if he have an urge to be an enterpreneu he can start doing it while studying (and sure if it bloosom he can then drop school).

Seems like your answer really were more torwards Delio, that is why I found strange that you were like responding disagreeing with me but actually agreeing =]

I was just having fun by poking a hole in your earlier comment. I wouldn't advise dropping out of school either, no matter how intelligent or ambitious someone was.

Almost like further context was necessary in order to come to the most proper conclusion based on what was said... wish there was a thread about that...



EricHiggin said:
DonFerrari said:

I would never advise someone to drop school to follow a billionaire path. I would say having graduation can be an asset for his future doesn't matter the career he chooses, and that if he have an urge to be an enterpreneu he can start doing it while studying (and sure if it bloosom he can then drop school).

Seems like your answer really were more torwards Delio, that is why I found strange that you were like responding disagreeing with me but actually agreeing =]

I was just having fun by poking a hole in your earlier comment. I wouldn't advise dropping out of school either, no matter how intelligent or ambitious someone was.

Almost like further context was necessary in order to come to the most proper conclusion based on what was said... wish there was a thread about that...

Well I didn't see a hole there, but by all means poke around =]

Make a thread on it =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
EricHiggin said:

I was just having fun by poking a hole in your earlier comment. I wouldn't advise dropping out of school either, no matter how intelligent or ambitious someone was.

Almost like further context was necessary in order to come to the most proper conclusion based on what was said... wish there was a thread about that...

Well I didn't see a hole there, but by all means poke around =]

Make a thread on it =p

Just that you mentioned not seeing a downside to staying in school. If you could drop out and make millions or more, staying in school might actually be worse for you. Hard to say unless you know the exact situation, like you said, plus the future really. Not a gaping hole, but a hole nonetheless. You covered it mostly with the few who actually achieve it remark.

I was actually referring to this thread, where some seem to think the less context the better. I wasn't referring to you though.