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The US is a constitutional republic. Congress can’t vote our rights away, it’s not democratic. Only the States can under article 5. You need a supreme majority to amend the constitution and its difficult on purpose. So they can’t be voted away. 3/5 of the states together are the most powerful form of democracy in our republic. They are even more powerful than all 3 federal branches. All because the states can amend the constitution without them. The states can change the limitations on a branch, require supreme Court term limits, require congress have a balanced budget by law, executive order boundaries. All kinds of things. But it is all based around the constitution and the rule of law, not democracy. 

Last edited by massimus - on 29 July 2018

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Pemalite said:
massimus said:

Freedom of the Press just means they can’t get locked up (or worse in Putin’s case) for political speech and commentary. It has nothing to do with attending White House press conferences. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index

fatslob-:O said:

Greetings Pemalite, I haven't posted in a while but here I go ...

"Freedom of the Press" means that the press has the right to publish whatever material they seek without government persecution in the vast majority of the cases but it's different from what you're thinking as "Freedom of Attendance for Press Conferences" where the office holder of an executive branch would be required to hold open press briefings without limit but to my knowledge there is no such provision in both the US constitution or US common law so ergo massimus has a point that Trump is not obligated to open his press briefings to any journalist ...

Well. In this instance, the Government is interfering and limiting an organization.
To me, that is not okay.

Again, I am not pretending to be an expert on American law, but if that was here... Questions would certainly be asked.

Lmao! I see what you did there.

 

Thats funny because she was interfering by yelling questions at him. They didn’t even treat Bush like that and they treated him like shit. Obama got yelled at once about policy and the other media in the room lashed out at the reporter lol. I have never seen any president treated this way on such a daily basis, it’s incredible.

They just don’t see him as a legitimate president and it’s warped. CNN shits on the office and they are nobody, some random corporation. They have no authority over a president. They took to a personal vendetta because he personally attacks their brand. Sometimes for good reason, sometimes just to be an asshole. They lose every time they try to face him though and that’s every day lol. His approval numbers go up despite their constant negative coverage which is tanking their ratings. This has been going on for awhile. 

 

How is he interfering with CNN? Are they not going to play 24/7 Trump coverage now? Of course they will lmao! CNN playing as the victim? Don’t fall for that shit bro, they don’t report the news they make the news. CNN tabloiders can kick rocks. im not an expert either, Americans learn their rights at a young age. Don’t need the wiki lol.

 



When a country like Israel, who is thousands of miles away, tells cnn to stop their manipulation, than u know they are garbage and should be kicked out. they are a propaganda machine and their only purpose is to feed u anti trump news all the time. no wonder they are one of the lowest viewed networks. their bias is really tiring and even a country like israel knows it. 



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DarthMetalliCube said:
Errorist76 said:

Ignorance is bliss I guess. It’s a testament to these dark times if some people prefer to look away just because they’re already used to these atrocities. 

Oh please.. Lol dark times. Come off it.. We live in what's probably BY FAR the most privileged, prosperous, free, equal, and comfortable times in the entire history of human civilization (assuming you live in the West and aren't homeless or of the poorest 10%). We have it 1000x better than even kings had it 200 years ago. Of course things aren't perfect but we'll never have an absolute perfect Utopia because we are all flawed beings.

We are not living anywhere NEAR "dark times." The middle ages were "dark times," when 2 thirds of Europe's population was wiped away from the Plague. WWII was dark times for a good chunk of the world, as you had 3 Fascist and Communist dictators (Hitler, Stalin, Musolini) who together brought mass destruction and death to like 60 million people combined. I don't get what it is about people that they love to feel that they're living in the era of "end times" whether it's the Evangelical Christians, or the sensationalist media lapdogs, or whoever.. I guess it makes people feel like their lives are more exciting rather than just being another cog in the machine..

Trump is not a "Fascist", a "dictator" "Satan" or "literally Hitler" as some of the media lapdogs proclaim (sure he's an egotistical right winger with Authoritarian tendencies but that doesn't mean he's anywhere near Fascist). This is pure hyperbole fueled by a media system that thrives on ratings. It's like saying Obama (because he's somewhat authoritarian left) is a socialist or that Bernie Sanders is a communist). A president doesn't have that much power in the US, firstly. Our system is designed to make it that way. I promise you, most of the real power structure pulling the strings are the same guys who were in power when Obama, Bush, and Clinton were president.

Just boggles my mind how so many get swept up in this fake media hype. The media is owned (and/or indirectly influenced via advertising) by large, often multi billion dollar corporations with billionaire CEOs at the top who obviously have vested interests and agendas. They feed the masses propaganda, and a good chunk of people continue to lap it all up. If you want to believe all this hype and go be swept up in the endless stream of mass hysteria be my guest, but personally I don't believe a word these guys say as long as money and ratings are involved. They've often proven outright to slander, be disingenuous, fabricate, and have personal agendas.

couldnt agree more. well said.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Nem said:
More dictatorial behaviour from the so wishful called leader of the "free" world.

If that was the case people would be in prison or dead for negative reporting about Trump. Last I checked, that's most of our media in the US.

Maybe ease up with the hyperbole.

It wasn't hyperbole. He is working on the courts. Certainly trying. He will get there if people keep letting him.



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I'm more right leaning and I still think this is bad. CNN are are obviously against him but that's just the way it works. Let them in.



Homeroids said:

Another side to the story. Apparently the reporter was just shouting out questions in the oval office. I don't know:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33609/real-reason-white-house-barred-cnn-reporter-joseph-curl

Yeah, now I've read that. It seems reasonable. CNN reporter caused a desterbance at one event and wasn't allowed into the second. Photographers and producer from the same CNN crew were allowed in.

 

Fair enough.



Nem said:
Mr Puggsly said:

If that was the case people would be in prison or dead for negative reporting about Trump. Last I checked, that's most of our media in the US.

Maybe ease up with the hyperbole.

It wasn't hyperbole. He is working on the courts. Certainly trying. He will get there if people keep letting him.

The dems are arguing he's going to make abortion a crime. Your concern is he will become a dictator? This is why we don't take Trump criticism seriously.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Nem said:

It wasn't hyperbole. He is working on the courts. Certainly trying. He will get there if people keep letting him.

The dems are arguing he's going to make abortion a crime. Your concern is he will become a dictator? This is why we don't take Trump criticism seriously.

Don't care if you do. I actually don't expect many who got him there to learn until it personally hits them. You got more to lose from it than me.

And also, it's not just that. It isn't one concern. There are countless terrible things he is doing. You thinking he wouldn't try to make a play for power, is naive though.  I'm sure that's what the Turkish were saying about Erdogan. xD



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