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Mr Puggsly on 05 April 2018
PwerlvlAmy said:
we need Far Cry 2 Remastered

Ehhh... the video demonstrates FC2 is a technically impressive game. But the game itself isn't very good.

I haven't played FC5, but the best part of 3 and 4 was exploring the world, unlocking all the fast travel spots, and hunting. You didn't do that in FC2 and the attempts to make the game more realistic often felt cumbersome. Like looking at a map, gun jamming, passing out, etc.

I don't recall exploring the world of FC2 being enjoyable and almost everybody you ran into tries to kill you. So the world just feels bleak and your only motivation to continue playing is a tedious campaign. Now if they made FC2 feel more like a modern FC game, I would enjoy that. I want to hunt endangered African animals so I can upgrade my wallet.

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taus90 on 05 April 2018
Mr Puggsly said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
we need Far Cry 2 Remastered

Ehhh... the video demonstrates FC2 is a technically impressive game. But the game itself isn't very good.

I haven't played FC5, but the best part of 3 and 4 was exploring the world, unlocking all the fast travel spots, and hunting. You didn't do that in FC2 and the attempts to make the game more realistic often felt cumbersome. Like looking at a map, gun jamming, passing out, etc.

I don't recall exploring the world of FC2 being enjoyable and almost everybody you ran into tries to kill you. So the world just feels bleak and your only motivation to continue playing is a tedious campaign. Now if they made FC2 feel more like a modern FC game, I would enjoy that. I want to hunt endangered African animals so I can upgrade my wallet.

Exactly..  FC2 wasnt an enjoyable game, those mechanics weren't deployed in a manner to be enjoyed.. i remember how frustrating it was when camera broke off into semi cut scene to remove shards from the body.. But I accepted those issues as FC2 was the first game on that engine which could have been developed along side the game and was hoping the team would get better in implementing those mechanics in the next game with a good solid story as. which they did deliver a really good story and setting in FC3 but stripped of everything else.



Mr Puggsly on 05 April 2018
taus90 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Ehhh... the video demonstrates FC2 is a technically impressive game. But the game itself isn't very good.

I haven't played FC5, but the best part of 3 and 4 was exploring the world, unlocking all the fast travel spots, and hunting. You didn't do that in FC2 and the attempts to make the game more realistic often felt cumbersome. Like looking at a map, gun jamming, passing out, etc.

I don't recall exploring the world of FC2 being enjoyable and almost everybody you ran into tries to kill you. So the world just feels bleak and your only motivation to continue playing is a tedious campaign. Now if they made FC2 feel more like a modern FC game, I would enjoy that. I want to hunt endangered African animals so I can upgrade my wallet.

Exactly..  FC2 wasnt an enjoyable game, those mechanics weren't deployed in a manner to be enjoyed.. i remember how frustrating it was when camera broke off into semi cut scene to remove shards from the body.. But I accepted those issues as FC2 was the first game on that engine which could have been developed along side the game and was hoping the team would get better in implementing those mechanics in the next game with a good solid story as. which they did deliver a really good story and setting in FC3 but stripped of everything else.

I see FC2 as an interesting experiment that ultimately led to the more enjoyable 3 and 4. I haven't spent much time with FC:Primal, but even that appears to have interesting ideas we've seen in other Ubisoft games.

I wouldn't say FC3 stripped everything else, because FC3 did create a more free world to explore. I bet a lot more effort went into designing the worlds and activities in all titles after FC2. I'm not sure why they pulled back on foliage details and destruction, but it certainly didn't make a better game.

Its possible FC5 could even improve some aspects via patches, but I kinda doubt that will. Either way, this video doesn't cover why we play modern FC games and what makes them better. It just shows FC2 was a technically impressive game.



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taus90 on 05 April 2018
Mr Puggsly said:
taus90 said:

Exactly..  FC2 wasnt an enjoyable game, those mechanics weren't deployed in a manner to be enjoyed.. i remember how frustrating it was when camera broke off into semi cut scene to remove shards from the body.. But I accepted those issues as FC2 was the first game on that engine which could have been developed along side the game and was hoping the team would get better in implementing those mechanics in the next game with a good solid story as. which they did deliver a really good story and setting in FC3 but stripped of everything else.

I see FC2 as an interesting experiment that ultimately led to the more enjoyable 3 and 4. I haven't spent much time with FC:Primal, but even that appears to have interesting ideas we've seen in other Ubisoft games.

I wouldn't say FC3 stripped everything else, because FC3 did create a more free world to explore. I bet a lot more effort went into designing the worlds and activities in all titles after FC2. I'm not sure why they pulled back on foliage details and destruction, but it certainly didn't make a better game.

Its possible FC5 could even improve some aspects via patches, but I kinda doubt that will. Either way, this video doesn't cover why we play modern FC games and what makes them better. It just shows FC2 was a technically impressive game.

of course not FC5 is far superior game.. but my point is, that in end was the trade off for prettier graphics worth it? Personally for me i would have preferred less graphical polish and more environment interaction, it just adds an extra layer of immersion, and i m kind of a guy who would venture off course to explore the world. 

But I think its the norm, and it would have been idiotic of ubisoft from a business point of view to not make prettier looking games.. coz thats what makes the first impression 



Mr Puggsly on 05 April 2018
taus90 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I see FC2 as an interesting experiment that ultimately led to the more enjoyable 3 and 4. I haven't spent much time with FC:Primal, but even that appears to have interesting ideas we've seen in other Ubisoft games.

I wouldn't say FC3 stripped everything else, because FC3 did create a more free world to explore. I bet a lot more effort went into designing the worlds and activities in all titles after FC2. I'm not sure why they pulled back on foliage details and destruction, but it certainly didn't make a better game.

Its possible FC5 could even improve some aspects via patches, but I kinda doubt that will. Either way, this video doesn't cover why we play modern FC games and what makes them better. It just shows FC2 was a technically impressive game.

of course not FC5 is far superior game.. but my point is, that in end was the trade off for prettier graphics worth it? Personally for me i would have preferred less graphical polish and more environment interaction, it just adds an extra layer of immersion, and i m kind of a guy who would venture off course to explore the world. 

But I think its the norm, and it would have been idiotic of ubisoft from a business point of view to not make prettier looking games.. coz thats what makes the first impression 

I'm not sure if the environment interaction had to be pulled back for any reason other than more programming work. I don't think it would be intensive on GPU, maybe more so on CPU and memory? I couldn't tell you.

I feel better graphics is more important than the minor environment interaction. I mean the average person will spend more time appreciating polished graphics over interactive trees and foliage. Pretty graphics and focus on gameplay matters more.



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Chrizum on 05 April 2018

Far Cry 2 had really great AI! Far Cry 5 on the other hand has the same level of physics and world interactivity as an N64 game...