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You guys need to stop using the bloated review scale from last gen. Angry Joe uses the correct one, which is what used to be used before last gen and what many reviewers are going back to.

A 5 is average. A 6 is just above average. 7 is a pretty good game. 8 is very good. 9 is great/excellent. 10 is damn near perfect.



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So much talk about review score, I mean who really cares ? This game is great fun when played with friends (crap alone tho). This game neeeds a lot more content but it has huge potential.



 

 

DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

No, that is only one misguided person. Look at every single reply in that entire thread. So far sales figures show it is having the best debut in the series. And how is 81 reception "bad'?

No, sub-80 is only scuffed at because there are way better games available to play, that people don't bother with just average/decent games. For example I'm not going to touch sea of thieves. However, 7 is merely an average score. The claim that 80 is average and 70 is bad is pure bullshit, sorry to say.

But seems like you haven't read the warning since you're here just to take lowkey shots at the game.

Saying below 80 metacritic on VGC have been considered bad for a long time is taking a lowkey shot on a game? If you are asking me about reading warnings be careful about the part of keeping civil.

You said yourself, when the best game and which people want to play are near 90 score, a 80 is considered an average game so 70 is on the bad portion. Games aren't looked as arithmetic mean, it is just that for something that you have limited time to play or budget, a 69 isn't considered average or good, for most people it's considered not worth to try.

flashfire926 said:

THIS^^^

Have you bothered to check the caveat he put with "cracked down this gen"

You are quite new to VGC, for several years games below 80 were scoffed at over here.

So Don, quick question. Do you consider anything scored a 7 a bad game?



thismeintiel said:
You guys need to stop using the bloated review scale from last gen. Angry Joe uses the correct one, which is what used to be used before last gen and what many reviewers are going back to.

A 5 is average. A 6 is just above average. 7 is a pretty good game. 8 is very good. 9 is great/excellent. 10 is damn near perfect.

I don't think reviewers ever used that scale, I don't even know if the claim that the 7th gen was more lenient than previous gens is even has that much merit.



thismeintiel said:
You guys need to stop using the bloated review scale from last gen. Angry Joe uses the correct one, which is what used to be used before last gen and what many reviewers are going back to.

A 5 is average. A 6 is just above average. 7 is a pretty good game. 8 is very good. 9 is great/excellent. 10 is damn near perfect.

I am still waiting for your personal review



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VGPolyglot said:
thismeintiel said:
You guys need to stop using the bloated review scale from last gen. Angry Joe uses the correct one, which is what used to be used before last gen and what many reviewers are going back to.

A 5 is average. A 6 is just above average. 7 is a pretty good game. 8 is very good. 9 is great/excellent. 10 is damn near perfect.

I don't think reviewers ever used that scale, I don't even know if the claim that the 7th gen was more lenient than previous gens is even has that much merit.

Of course it holds merit. They were handing out 9s like candy, including bug ridden messes. It's also why you see gamers this gen, freaking out about their favorite game getting a 7, even though that's not a bad score.

Games are far more nuanced for there to be only 2 good scores to get, a 9 and a 10, with 8 being above average. That leaves the vast majority of the scale equaling shit to be avoided. But, there are just as many varying levels to good games as there are for bad ones, which is why good reviewers use the whole scale. . 

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thismeintiel said:
VGPolyglot said:

I don't think reviewers ever used that scale, I don't even know if the claim that the 7th gen was more lenient than previous gens is even has that much merit.

Of course it holds merit. They were handing out 8s and 9s like candy, including bug ridden messes. It's also why you see gamers this gen, freaking out about their favorite game getting a 7, even though that's not a bad score.

Games are far more nuanced for there to be only 2 good scores to get, a 9 and a 10, with 8 being above average. That leaves the vast majority of the scale equaling shit to be avoided. But, there are just as many varying levels to good games as there are for bad ones, which is why good reviewers use the whole scale. . 

But do you have something like an actual graph that shows the average score per-year throughout the site's history?



VGPolyglot said:
thismeintiel said:

Of course it holds merit. They were handing out 8s and 9s like candy, including bug ridden messes. It's also why you see gamers this gen, freaking out about their favorite game getting a 7, even though that's not a bad score.

Games are far more nuanced for there to be only 2 good scores to get, a 9 and a 10, with 8 being above average. That leaves the vast majority of the scale equaling shit to be avoided. But, there are just as many varying levels to good games as there are for bad ones, which is why good reviewers use the whole scale. . 

But do you have something like an actual graph that shows the average score per-year throughout the site's history?

Evidence to back a claim up, what fresh hell is this?

Also, what if the games last gen were just better than what we have gotten thus far this gen? 



Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

Saying below 80 metacritic on VGC have been considered bad for a long time is taking a lowkey shot on a game? If you are asking me about reading warnings be careful about the part of keeping civil.

You said yourself, when the best game and which people want to play are near 90 score, a 80 is considered an average game so 70 is on the bad portion. Games aren't looked as arithmetic mean, it is just that for something that you have limited time to play or budget, a 69 isn't considered average or good, for most people it's considered not worth to try.

Have you bothered to check the caveat he put with "cracked down this gen"

You are quite new to VGC, for several years games below 80 were scoffed at over here.

So Don, quick question. Do you consider anything scored a 7 a bad game?

If I were to give a 7 to a game it would be on the realm of the forgetful, won't touch this anymore. If you are asking about metacritic, for the history of VGC 80 have been considered average and 70 bad, and you won't ever see me in any thread saying I agree or use metacritic for anything (in fact most users on this site don't agree with metacritic and when looking at reviews prefer to look at a reviewer that have similar taste to them). Still the point stand (not that SoT is bad because of the metacritic) but that a 69 on metacritic have been considered a bad score (not a bad game, you can differentiate right) for a long time on VGC.



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DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

So Don, quick question. Do you consider anything scored a 7 a bad game?

If I were to give a 7 to a game it would be on the realm of the forgetful, won't touch this anymore. If you are asking about metacritic, for the history of VGC 80 have been considered average and 70 bad, and you won't ever see me in any thread saying I agree or use metacritic for anything (in fact most users on this site don't agree with metacritic and when looking at reviews prefer to look at a reviewer that have similar taste to them). Still the point stand (not that SoT is bad because of the metacritic) but that a 69 on metacritic have been considered a bad score (not a bad game, you can differentiate right) for a long time on VGC.

Reason I am asking is because if many in here want to jump on SoTs reviews based off Critics than all games should be considered equal. I remember you defending Gran Turismo Sport that suffered the same fate as SoTs with its lack of content at launch where the game sits on a 75 Metacritic. Someone like yourself who is a GT fan, do you consider GTS a bad game because its a 7 game by majority of critics?

Reviews are nothing but guidelines, I can see that some gamers fall in love with games that reviewed averagely. To me games are only judged by those who actually played them.