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eva01beserk on 07 February 2018
superchunk said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Subcription streaming services for gaming are such a terrible idea.

Why?

1. All of us already pay a fee to use a console. (well Nintendo's fee will be soon)

2. How many people use Gamestop's (or other retailers) resell offers as they buy and finish games quickly?

 

The way I see it, IF

1. Fee is a nominal amount.

2. You get full access to all past and new games at same time. Games = all the normal console AAA and other games, not just the current mobile-esque titles. i.e. there has to be near parity with current consoles as far as selection goes.

3. Video and gameplay quality is stable.

THEN, I don't see why it wouldn't appeal to a large group of gamers.

 

bonzobanana said:
I don't see the problem. A relatively cheap set top box with decent controller that allows me to play my play store games at very high quality settings and also stream high quality pc games relatively cheaply.

Maybe the hardware will be stronger than we think so can actually deliver more performance than the Switch in a set top box for low money. $100 or so. They throw in a 100hrs of game access. It's also fully integrated with your android phone you can share game saves between both devices so can play the same games at home or on the go.

Lots of ways they can make it into a compelling package. What if its $8 a month for a low cost package with older movies and tv and some games and tiered levels offering better movies and games at higher prices.

Whatever it will be interesting to see what they come up with. Their problem is more likely to be compelling content rather than the hardware.

Both of you share the same problem. If MS lackluster lineup is on offer for $10 a month + online cost, How much do you guys think adding the rest of all multiplats and probably original content and as one of you said movies and music? This kind of service will be costing like $50 a month for a bunch of things most people wont even want all of it. it will be the same issue that cable had and why is going down the drain.



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bonzobanana on 07 February 2018
eva01beserk said:
superchunk said:

Why?

1. All of us already pay a fee to use a console. (well Nintendo's fee will be soon)

2. How many people use Gamestop's (or other retailers) resell offers as they buy and finish games quickly?

 

The way I see it, IF

1. Fee is a nominal amount.

2. You get full access to all past and new games at same time. Games = all the normal console AAA and other games, not just the current mobile-esque titles. i.e. there has to be near parity with current consoles as far as selection goes.

3. Video and gameplay quality is stable.

THEN, I don't see why it wouldn't appeal to a large group of gamers.

 

bonzobanana said:
I don't see the problem. A relatively cheap set top box with decent controller that allows me to play my play store games at very high quality settings and also stream high quality pc games relatively cheaply.

Maybe the hardware will be stronger than we think so can actually deliver more performance than the Switch in a set top box for low money. $100 or so. They throw in a 100hrs of game access. It's also fully integrated with your android phone you can share game saves between both devices so can play the same games at home or on the go.

Lots of ways they can make it into a compelling package. What if its $8 a month for a low cost package with older movies and tv and some games and tiered levels offering better movies and games at higher prices.

Whatever it will be interesting to see what they come up with. Their problem is more likely to be compelling content rather than the hardware.

Both of you share the same problem. If MS lackluster lineup is on offer for $10 a month + online cost, How much do you guys think adding the rest of all multiplats and probably original content and as one of you said movies and music? This kind of service will be costing like $50 a month for a bunch of things most people wont even want all of it. it will be the same issue that cable had and why is going down the drain.

Google are rich and may play the long game, subsidised hardware and service costs at the beginning so that they are the major player left in 5-10 years when they can truly profit from that monopoly. Again without knowing the full details we can only speculate but I would not at this point count them out of the race but compelling content is still their biggest challenge. People really need to want a google box  under their tv and that needs compelling content that works flawlessly. It might be like cable boxes where only large cities with fast broadband connections will have reason enough to buy. If your out in the stix with rubbish broadband you might as well forget it. Those people may have to wait years before they can benefit from a google gaming box.



Nautilus on 07 February 2018
HoloDust said:
SpokenTruth said:

That would only work well if they were still pursuing their Google Fiber initiative.  Since they have backed off on that, I don't see them trying a console grade streaming service but more in line with their current game offerings.

Google started to enable app streaming via the search interface on their phones not too long ago.  This could be the next logical step.

Game streaming services are, whether we like it or not, future of industry - vast majority of places in the world still don't have internet infrastructure for that, but baby steps.

Google (and MS) have shit-ton of money, I expect them to be front runners on this one.

Streaming is the future?Probably for media that are shorter in its purpose, like movies.But games are something that requires time and dedication, and thus have a different type of client.I would say digital will be the future, with streaming having a small but significant hold of the market.



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DélioPT on 07 February 2018

What if this is Google [Nvidia] Shield TV?



eva01beserk on 07 February 2018
bonzobanana said:
eva01beserk said:

 

Both of you share the same problem. If MS lackluster lineup is on offer for $10 a month + online cost, How much do you guys think adding the rest of all multiplats and probably original content and as one of you said movies and music? This kind of service will be costing like $50 a month for a bunch of things most people wont even want all of it. it will be the same issue that cable had and why is going down the drain.

Google are rich and may play the long game, subsidised hardware and service costs at the beginning so that they are the major player left in 5-10 years when they can truly profit from that monopoly. Again without knowing the full details we can only speculate but I would not at this point count them out of the race but compelling content is still their biggest challenge. People really need to want a google box  under their tv and that needs compelling content that works flawlessly. It might be like cable boxes where only large cities with fast broadband connections will have reason enough to buy. If your out in the stix with rubbish broadband you might as well forget it. Those people may have to wait years before they can benefit from a google gaming box.

Just like it wrked so well for MS.

I don't know where this notion that if  a company has money is willing to just give billions away. Especially not if profits are maybe 5-10 years away.



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Conina on 07 February 2018
bonzobanana said:
I don't see the problem. A relatively cheap set top box with decent controller that allows me to play my play store games at very high quality settings and also stream high quality pc games relatively cheaply.

Ain't that exactly the concept of Nvidia Shield and Grip?

 

Didn't take the world by storm...



Ganoncrotch on 07 February 2018
flashfire926 said:
It's been 16 years since anyone entered/exited the console industry.

It would be refreshing to have a fourth player in the console space. After all, competition drives innovation.

no



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Xen on 07 February 2018
Ganoncrotch said:
flashfire926 said:
It's been 16 years since anyone entered/exited the console industry.

It would be refreshing to have a fourth player in the console space. After all, competition drives innovation.

no

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VGPolyglot on 07 February 2018

Which games would they even have? Just games on the Play Store? They'd surely need more than that.



3sexty on 07 February 2018
eva01beserk said:
bonzobanana said:

Google are rich and may play the long game, subsidised hardware and service costs at the beginning so that they are the major player left in 5-10 years when they can truly profit from that monopoly. Again without knowing the full details we can only speculate but I would not at this point count them out of the race but compelling content is still their biggest challenge. People really need to want a google box  under their tv and that needs compelling content that works flawlessly. It might be like cable boxes where only large cities with fast broadband connections will have reason enough to buy. If your out in the stix with rubbish broadband you might as well forget it. Those people may have to wait years before they can benefit from a google gaming box.

Just like it wrked so well for MS.

I don't know where this notion that if  a company has money is willing to just give billions away. Especially not if profits are maybe 5-10 years away.

How is it not working well for them?  Last quarter earnings for MS indicate increased gaming and subscription based revenue. And certainly moving forward as internet speeds ramp up across the world streaming based gaming will become mainstream with servers (cloud based) doing all the heavy lifting. Google would be smart to ready themselves for the future. - as should all savvy companies.



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