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DonFerrari said:
LivingMetal said:

So are exclusives not a primary factor in sustaining viability for a platform provider?

Only Nintendo games are major selling points as exclusives.

That's false in the sense that's it's the only brand with exclusives that are major selling points and true in the sense that in general, nintendo doesn't have much to offer in terms of games beyond their exclusives.



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Aeolus451 said:
DonFerrari said:

Only Nintendo games are major selling points as exclusives.

That's false in the sense that's it's the only brand with exclusives that are major selling points and true in the sense that in general, nintendo doesn't have much to offer in terms of games beyond their exclusives.

True that. Beyond Mario and Zelda games Nintendo doesn’t have many titles that sell great, I guess you could add Splatoon to that now as well. But even these aren’t going to sell on the level on an Uncharted, The Last of Us, or God of War these Days. But once you go down to that 1-5 million range Sony has so many games compared to Nintendo it’s not even fair.



NawaiNey said:
Aeolus451 said:

That's false in the sense that's it's the only brand with exclusives that are major selling points and true in the sense that in general, nintendo doesn't have much to offer in terms of games beyond their exclusives.

True that. Beyond Mario and Zelda games Nintendo doesn’t have many titles that sell great, I guess you could add Splatoon to that now as well. But even these aren’t going to sell on the level on an Uncharted, The Last of Us, or God of War these Days. But once you go down to that 1-5 million range Sony has so many games compared to Nintendo it’s not even fair.

Were you trying to counter what i said with that?  it's easier in general to sell a game to higher levels if there's not many other games to distract from it. Sony has a lot more games for gamers to be distracted by (third party games) so the sales are spread out across the board. You're just unintentionally going along with what I said. 



NawaiNey said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
No one said they don’t matter, lol.

Also, PS4 was already dominating the Xbone well before 2017, which is when the PS4 really distanced itself in the exclusives department. PS4 already had the mind share :)

Mind share isn't a constant, it fluctuates day to day, week to week, month to month, year to year (or it can atleat).

For instance last gen Xbox had the mindshare (and millions of consoles sold) before PS3 even launched, but PS3 eventually too the mindshare and the sales war with better and more exclusives that gamers wanted to play and talk about. 

You're right that PS4 already had the mindshare before 2017, but let's not pretend the gap didn't widen even more due to nothing worth talking about on XB side. Do you really think that say if PS4 had no exclusives in 2018, and MS dropped a bunch of exclusives including a couple new IPs that it wouldn't create a shift in mind share, and narrative and then that shift wouldn't affect sales?

The PS3 was on pace to pass the 360 from the day it launched, long before it got any "better exclusives". And yeah, mind share can certainly change. Of course, companies can also kill or neuter a product before it even gets to the shelves and that's what Microsoft did. Look at the Wii to the Wii U. All the amazing exclusives Nintendo could muster didn't get it any traction with the non-hardcore gamer. Microsoft has already lost that crowd with the Xbone, that's why they're focusing on the more hardcore gamer with stuff like OG Xbox BC and the Scorpio.

Yeah, if Xbone got a slew of exclusives and PS4 got only a few, it would have changed the narrative on the Internets, slightly. It wouldn't have mattered much at retail. Again, we already saw this narrative earlier in PS4's life. Nothing much to play, but it still dominated at the cash register. What we think as hardcore gamers and what the general consumer want are two different things. We enjoy good games, we enjoy variety. The average gamer wants to play the latest pow pow shooter online with their buddies.

The same Internet crowd saying exclusives are vitally important and the reason the PS4 is beating Xbone is the same crowd that says Call of Duty is garbage every year and yet every year it outsells everything. They're important, just not as important as people want to make them out to be in console warz. We can just agree to disagree, most of what you're saying is accurate and at the same time doesn't disprove my opinion. Too often "they're not that important" gets twisted into "they don't matter at all".