o_O.Q said:
Peh said:
I've posted the official definition for these terms, arf. Look it up, arf. You can't just make your own definition of a word and use it for your argument, arf. That's intellectual dishonesty, arf.
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the first entry that popped up on google has this as the definition
"...Less broadly, atheismis the rejection of belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most general form, is the belief that..."
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Intellectual dishonesty still fits you, arf.
I've posted the quote with a link in this very thread on page 8, arf. Maybe you've missed it, arf. But even so, you've quoted only the part that fits your agenda, arf. What you left out is the following, arf:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism ,arf
"Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deties[1][2][3][4] Less broadly, atheism is ...." ,arf
"Atheism is contrasted with theism,[9][10] which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists" ,arf
You should also take note that there is a misconception and a wrong definitions spread about atheism, arf.
This is also in one of the references to the quote which is, arf:
2. Simon Blackburn, ed. (2008). "atheism". The Oxford Dictionary of Philosophy (2008 ed.). Oxford University Press. Retrieved 2013-11-21. Either the lack of belief that there exists a god, or the belief that there exists none. Sometimes thought itself to be more dogmatic than mere agnosticism, although atheists retort that everyone is an atheist about most gods, so they merely advance one step further. ,arf
"...or the belief that there exists none. ..." ,arf
That statement is false and mostly used by theists / apologists, arf. Funny enough, because the oxford dictionary defines atheism as "Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods." , arf
Disbelief is defined as: "inability or refusal to accept that something is true or real", aswell as "lack of faith", arf.
If "I believe that no god exists" would be true, then the same would be valid for smurfs, magical ponies, fairies and everything that comes to ones mind, arf.
If I ask you: "Do you believe that a smurf created the universe and everything else, arf?", then you would reply with "No, I don't believe that, arf. That's ridiculous, arf. I reject such a concept, arf." But would you are aiming for is rather: "I believe that a smurf didn't created the universe, arf.", arf. So, you actively believe that, meaning the contrary could be indeed true, but you believe it is not, arf. Also, you would automatically define it as a belief system, arf.
Same as, do you believe that Zeus does not exist, or do you not believe in Zeus, at all, arf? Same for all the other 1000 of gods you don't even know about, arf. Do you believe that they all don't exist, arf?
Personally, I simply don't believe in any of those, arf. I am not buying what theists want to sell me, arf. It's not convinced by any of the arguments, arf. Hence, why I lack a belief in those things, arf.
This was also posted several times already: https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/ , arf