Explain how this case makes it anymore different than the war between the US and Japan ? Would Japan have been anymore merciful than the Arabs in their situation like you speculate ? 

Except your neighbors haven't declared war and a few bad apples (terrorists) that throw a bunch of pebbles don't reflect their stance while Israel officially on their behalf returns far more deadly force such as using guns causing far more damage like state sponsoring air strikes against unarmed Palestinian citizens ... 

Can you really justify kicking out your own neighbors from their own house and occupying it at the same time ? That's called "stealing" FYI ... 

I don't know what Japan would have done if they had won against the US, all I know is that the US nuked civilians in cities on purpose and it was surrender or genocide. This is in itself worth a thread if someone starts this I may take part but it's complex in and of itself so yeah, a thread for that.

As for Israel they are not nuking or telling Palestinians to surrender or everybody dies so that's a huge difference with the US/Japan situation of 1945.

And again the Arab countries around Israel very much declared war and tried to murder everyone in Israel but Israel beat them so they agreed to a ceasefire cause they had no choice and not out of the kindness of their hearts. Not sure why you say the Arabs did not declare war when they pretty clearly did in 1967 and even before that.

Can I justify kicking out my neighbor? If my neighbor tries to kill me I'll fight back but if my neighbor GANGS UP with other neighbors to try and kill me and my family, that's war and I'll kick them out cause they are a cancer and a danger yes.

In other circumstances you could say it's stealing their house but again read this part slowly so you fully understand it: they GANGED UP with other neighbors to MURDER me and my FAMILY, get it? Stealing is NOTHING in comparison, it's well deserved punishment...

The real question I think is why you and others in this thread believe stealing is bad but genocide is ok? Is it cause the 1967 attempted genocide failed? In my book Arabs tried and I won't excuse them cause they failed, they tried and that's as bad as succeeding. They don't attack anymore but NOT cause they don't want to or because they are civilized now, but cause they know they don't stand much of a chance if they attacked again like they did in 1967 so in my book that's as bad as still wanting to destroy Israel. In a way they still do, some of them still do for example it is known that Iran sponsors Palestinian terrorism and not just that, also that terrorist group in Lebanon whose name I can't recall right now. So yeah this cease fire is only in appearance.

We obviously have very different moral values you and me.

Give Palestine their own land to make their own country. Arctic circle or Antarctica area should keep them far enough away from the rest of the civilized world where they can't hurt anyone else. They seem to have issues with sharing and getting along with anyone different than them.

If anyone is interested in the cause of the 1967 war.

To lazy to click? Here is a summary.

Suez Crisis
http://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/suez-crisis
Was an invasion of Egypt in late 1956 by Israel, followed by the United Kingdom and France. The aims were to regain Western control of the Suez Canal and to remove Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser, who had just nationalized the canal. On 29 October, Israel invaded the Egyptian Sinai. Britain and France issued a joint ultimatum to cease fire, which was ignored. On 5 November, Britain and France landed paratroopers along the Suez Canal. The Egyptian forces were defeated, but they did block the canal to all shipping. It later became clear that the Israeli invasion and the subsequent Anglo-French attack had been planned beforehand by the three countries.

The Six Day War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_Six-Day_War
After the 1956 Suez Crisis, Egypt agreed to the stationing of a United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) in the Sinai to ensure all parties would comply with the 1949 Armistice Agreements. Despite the overwhelming support for Resolution 1000 in the UN General Assembly, Israel refused to allow UNEF forces onto its territory. In the following years, there were numerous minor border clashes between Israel and its Arab neighbors, particularly Syria. In early November, 1966, Syria signed a mutual defense agreement with Egypt. On November 13, 1966, in response to PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) guerrilla activity, including a mine attack that left three dead, the Israeli Defence Force (IDF) attacked the village of as-Samu in the Jordanian-occupied West Bank. Jordanian units that engaged the Israelis were quickly beaten back. King Hussein of Jordan criticized Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser for failing to come to Jordan's aid, and "hiding behind UNEF skirts". Israel was censured for this invasion in United Nations Security Council Resolution 228, being reproached by the US, the UK, France and the USSR. On April 7, 1967 Israel invaded Syria. The USSR urged that the collective defense agreement with Egypt had been triggered. In May 1967, Nasser received false reports from the Soviet Union that Israel was massing on the Syrian border.

Nasser began massing his troops in the Sinai Peninsula on Israel's border (May 16), expelled the UNEF force from Gaza and Sinai (May 19) and took up UNEF positions at Sharm el-Sheikh, overlooking the Straits of Tiran. Israel reiterated declarations made in 1957 that any closure of the Straits would be considered an act of war, or justification for war. Nasser declared the Straits closed to Israeli shipping on May 22–23. On May 30, Jordan and Egypt signed a defense pact. The following day, at Jordan's invitation, the Iraqi army began deploying troops and armored units in Jordan. They were later reinforced by an Egyptian contingent. On June 1, Israel formed a National Unity Government by widening its cabinet, and on June 4 the decision was made to go to war. The next morning, Israel launched Operation Focus, a large-scale surprise air strike that launched the Six-Day War.

Whether their actions are justified remains debatable today. I think none of them were in the right.

FYI: Territory disputes, and Regime Change does not equal genocide.

What weapons you use don't matter and Palestinians surrendered regardless, the process and result ended up being similar to a point ... 

The Arabs didn't declare war AFTER 1967 is what I meant and Israel's neighbor isn't ganging up anymore against them so do they feel so compelled to use excessive force ? 

Nobody's defending the Arabs attempt at what you supposedly claim to be a genocide, that's just a straw man on your part ... 

The real question should be why you think it's OK for Israel to continue their conquest when the UN forbids from nationalizing these settlements ... 

Do you realize the fallacy of your argument? I think all is said when you say "The Arabs didn't declare war AFTER 1967"

First I told you why, because why declare a war you are almost certain to lose?  It's as if I said: A murderer that is in jail is a good guy cause AFTER he murdered and got thrown in jail, he is not murdering anymore... Of course he is not murdering anymore, he is in jail which means he physically cannot murder and not that he does not want to. Arabs don't attack because they mostly can't and not cause they don't want to.

Also saying they did not declare war AFTER 1967 is a way to excuse them as if BEFORE was ok. With such reasoning you can defend Arabs no matter what. Let me show you: the terrorists of ISIS are good guys because AFTER the last attack they have not attacked again... See? That's called a sophism, a line of reasoning that seems to make sense but that actually does NOT.

But you know what? Let's roll with your pro-Arab line of defense. the Arabs have NOT attacked Israel AFTER 1967, you are right, but here is the catch: ISRAEL did NOT ATTACK or INVADE those Arab countries AFTER the events of 1967 Once they were defeated and Israel took the Golan and the Sinai, AFTER that Israel did not take anymore land, Israel even RETURNED that land to Egypt and If I'm correct returned later on the Golan heights. But Israel did not take anymore AFTER that and Israel has NOT been at war with Egypt AFTER that. Israel is at war with the ones who are still at war with them, I mean the Palestinians but the point remains: Israel is not at war with Egypt now or Jordan or any of those countries so you have no point regarding countries like Egypt.

Thank you for your historical details but I'm not sure how those details change anything as to the 1967 war itself. How is the attack on Israel justified? And what is your point? That Israel should have been like: Oh yeah the Suez Canal thing, right, so please Arabs invade us, murder everyone of us and we'll just do nothing about it and let you kill us all in this nice year of 1967...

The causes of WW2 can also be found in what happened during WW1. Germany was brought to its knees after being defeated in 1918 and some argue that this humiliation of Germany is what later was the reason for the success of Hitler in seducing Germans by promising them to bring forth German pride and prosperity. And that may be true but how does that justify the horrors Germany was guilty of in 1945?

Also Israel did warn Egypt back in those days that closing the strait meant war, Egypt wanted that war, confident that together with the other Arab countries they would destroy Israel. Boy were they wrong. I guess Israel is guilty of being stronger than the Arab countries around them.

No, it's really not a fallacy. It's just a plain fact and it's not certain Israel would be victorious again today if the Six-Day War was reenacted. That was over 5 decades ago (just like how it's doubtful that Japan would be able win against China today), right now Israel probably wouldn't want to risk another war considering the Arab League's combined air forces and war is geographically disadvantageous for Israel ... 

Conflict with the Sinai Peninsula went beyond the Six-Day War and the territory was once reclaimed by Egypt during Operation Badr in 1973 so conflict in that region ended with Egyptian victory just before the peace treaty. Israel never returned the Golan Heights to Syria either and nobody is at war is Israel, not even Palestine so how is Israel's excessive force and imperialism justified ?

?. The whole point of that post was to show the cause. You like to think I'm picking sides but your own damn whataboutery really shows how far from the truth and misinformed you are.

Nobody is talking about "murdering everyone of us". I think most of us here prefers a none violent solution, but you seem to prefer to bomb everyone to hell kind of attitude. It's like empathy is offensive to you or something. Get that mindset out of your head before replying to me.

I think that United States, and the rest of the world should stay out of the whole situation, stop providing money and weapons to all sides, and let them sort out their own shit. They would have probably worked it out 40 or 50 years ago if it weren't for the US military industrial complex wanting to keep the constant fighting going.